With all this talk of insufferable moralfagging and other shit I gotta ask. Who do you anons think has done the most damage to the fetish as a whole. I’m talking actual lasting impact instead of just being a cunt online. Doesn’t have to be limited to artists either… Personally I cast my vote for Quirkyloverosee/rosiejade. It’s been a long while but I remember her having a falling out with some other ssbbws and going on a whole tirade via podcasts and shit calling the kink and it’s enjoyers an evil grooming cult.

>>300377 not the man, but the event revolving the man, the time Jeetdoh got called out for drawing Peni Parker, and how that snowballed into people calling out others for drawing "innapropiate" characters

>>300377 FFANumber5 I'd say. She's wasn't the first of her kind, neither was she solely responsible, but she played a huge part with just how much she bitched about things

>>300377 Jeet, for pic related, then FFA#5 as >>300381 explained. What a funny coincidence that neither is doing well by any metric six years later. >>300374 That stereotype exists for a damned good reason anon, and God only knows what he's trying to hide

>>300382 You post this every month and it just makes you look like more of an obsessed tranny pedo jeetdoh stalker every time. Go outside you fucking nigger.

>>300377 My take on this is that I don’t think any one person within the fetish has done any major damage really. Like, some people have caused some annoying trends and discourse in the space due to their influence, but I can’t think of any one person who caused a large amount of other artists to say, delete their accounts or nuke galleries. Now if I could point a finger outside the community and even to major companies themselves, that’s a very different story. I guess if I had to pick one I’d go with bamboo-ale because without them we might’ve gotten more pieces from Toroboro instead them devolving into greasy anatomical nightmares.

>>300382 Jeetdoh is still around. He just doesnt do as much fat art because he has a art job outside of fat art and likes drawing fat robots which nobody but him really enjoys. Also he reached his prime in the era where nobody really gave a shit about character ages as long as the character wasnt prepubesent, aged down, or drawn as a lolicon. I think the general consensus was that most characters drawn where aged up. The trope of just taking a character late into high school and just making them a young adult and replace the high school setting with a similar university setting and having the character also work entry level jobs common for young adults is not a new concept. Also its not unusual for high school seniors to be of age depending on when their birthday falls and how late into the semester it is. A lot of artists did those small tweaks implicitly. Plenty did not. But few really cared until the whole schizo meltdown over aged up characters began in the late 2010s.

>>300407 Jeet isn't still around, he draws transformers ocs to an audience of no one after walking away from a very profitable patreon following and burning every bridge he had access to. The entire "who shot hannibal" crowd is worse off than they were in their prime, but jeet has gone beyond punchline to cautionary tale at this point, and that's what he deserves for being retarded enough to listen to karens and absolon.

>>300377 He's defended quite adamantly here but imo it's still bamboo-ale for running one of the first artists' cabal discords and giving other people reason to want to hide in their own by being a massive jackass.

>>300422 I still wanna make that little dutch nigger shit his own teeth out. Just an ACTUAL fucking faggot with a personality that makes you wanna curbstomp him.

>>300422 Are you sure? I've never seen anyone defend bamboo before, not when is art gives most people headaches.

>>300401 to be fair toroboro was already making anatomical nightmares back when they were foxfire in the form of that gamer streamer girl chick with a fat body and skinny arms/face, but now she's a fat mexican lesbian named kiari i guess so nothing really changes

>>300422 I love how you can specifically track BambooAle's art to a saga of his life. As in the worst the anatomy gets, more grotesque proportions, and scatalogical it gets corresponds to how fucked up his personal life, mental health, and interpersonal relationships are going. The pre cabal era had mostly vanilla art by fat fetish standards. The cabal era had some slight depravity with neets, immobility, light slob. The post cabal era had him basically adopting toborro's shit tier anatomy for all non comissioned works. The present era is now more varied but has him willing to draw scat and more grotesque slob shit. Truly amazing to watch such a downfall. As much as I hate Bamboo as a person and the artist he is now. His early works will always my favorites of all time. To me now he joins the ranks of artists that long since past their peak but have made amazing works a long while ago, such as Anasti, BonusArt, Trinityfate, and Jeetdoh.

>>300322 Quite weird how every franchise popular with femcels suddenly becomes a big deal with fat artists, despite being the same cult that demand censorship and deplatforming of anyone who doesn't fall in line. I'm still livid that talented flags such as Idle-minded and Kawaiidebu wasted their talent on Harry Potter fat art pieces, one of the most mediocre movie franchises ever produced up until Rowling got fed up with trannies and all of the sudden everyone stopped drawing those teenagers with morbid obesity. Tumblrinas and their lapdogs are so morally sound.

>>300444 >it gets corresponds to how fucked up his personal life, mental health, and interpersonal relationships are going. That tracks. In 2023, his partner at the time (dunno if they're still together) was running his merch store before she experienced a death in the family, which (I guess?) caused him to leave all outstanding orders unfulfilled. He said that he'd issue refunds, but if you're still lurking on his discord server, the '#shop-support' channel has over two years worth of posts people have made where that clearly has yet to happen lol. It doesn't seem like that YoruNoEcchi partnership has been very profitable either, as they've since de-listed all of his products from their collection. Makes me wonder if he backed out of that as well.

>>300451 Also I feel mostly indifferent about his technical skill at this point. I still enjoy his weird anatomy and grotesque proportions; I just wish he'd communicate more effectively.

>>300451 Lmao, imagine being an useful retard and waste your welfare checks on shit that is so embarrassing to display. That reminds of Anastimafilia selling his Princess Daisy shirt merch, did anyone buy that? It looked normal at first glance but looking it deep down it may raise a red flag on how she's looks borderline diabetic, not to mention wokescolds have appropriated fat people as part of their cult, not a good sign for a guy who genuinely despises DA SJW's for butchering his beloved mid RPG for the Wii U.

On a completely unrelated note: did anyone else see that deviantart has started limiting downloads? >Non-Core & Core Basic: 10 free downloads per week >Core+ and higher: 150 free downloads per week https://www.deviantart.com/team/status-update/An-adjustments-being-made-to-1307747979

>>300453 >Princess Daisy shirt Wait, the fuck? Never heard of that specfically.

>>300451 >as they've since de-listed all of his products from their collection. Makes me wonder if he backed out of that as well. Oh wait nvm they're still having issues with Shopify's terms and conditions. >>300453 >imagine being an useful retard and waste your welfare checks on shit that is so embarrassing to display The closest thing we have to a Nikuket is SizeCon, but you strike me someone who'd never attend either. I don't really care for Anastimafilia, but I was actually thinking about copping that ChubbyChiquita shirt that kappallnight did a couple months ago. Can't right now anyway, but it looks okay.

time to do a shit

>>300455 >Upgrade to Core to use a feature that was previously free DOWNWARD SPIRAL

>>300377 My vote's for KipTeiTei and Pixiveo, though their problems are more lying in ancient history these days. The eternal Patreon grift of "not good enough to post on /d/ but posted there anyways for some reason" safe for work asexual yurislop, and spawners of shiteating shills and copycats, and being forced to see their terrible OCs drawn by better artists when they could have drawn an actually decent character instead of "anime version of an awful person you could encounter in real life, but with animal ears/wing ears." I do more blame these days of their festering fanbases for part of this sites censorship problems as you can't really say anything remotely negative about them or their works in their thread without your post being deleted on this site, something that I'm sure has extended to other threads I also rarely post in. Drop a post calling it out but that usually gets swept up in the jannies "delete fucking everything" rampage, still not sure if the shills have infiltrated this sites mods or if it's them not giving a fuck, but every time it happens I start leaning more to the prior due to my rare posts usually being very tame compared to the death threats and the likes of others as I prefer to lurk moar and posting is pointless on a site that constantly deletes anything you've posted which further reduces my desire to contribute anything here at all. I kind of fucking hate how this site has slowly been devolving into a Reddit hugbox, but worse, as at least you can see some of the downvoted posts on Reddit by unhiding them and those are usually the posts that I'd open up and read when forced to read through that garbage dumpster of a site for some obscure bullshit that has no other discussion on the current topic I've searched for on the decaying husk of the modern internet.

I forgot to post about something regarding the Bluesky image update for anyone downloading shit: >https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:bbn7yglx6ttrei7hy5w6otxs/bafkreigmpqny7xndq27ibolysr7opz5qeq3helpx2ohrab6kkxtatukrmm This is the .webp URL. >https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:bbn7yglx6ttrei7hy5w6otxs/bafkreigmpqny7xndq27ibolysr7opz5qeq3helpx2ohrab6kkxtatukrmm@jpeg Adding @jpeg takes you to the .jpeg version hosted on Bluesky's servers. >https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:bbn7yglx6ttrei7hy5w6otxs/bafkreigmpqny7xndq27ibolysr7opz5qeq3helpx2ohrab6kkxtatukrmm@png Adding @png sends you to the .png version of the image on Bluesky's servers. Now you need how to get past the .webp bullshit on the retarded blue butterfly site.

>>300461 I don't like any OCslop. Would be better if instead of OC shit we would get any actual waifu from any series.

>>300461 Here’s a tip, post a (relevant to the thread) image with your posts if you intend to discuss anything. 9 times outta 10, just having an image will spare you from mass deletion from the mods if the discussion grows too hot and too many people report the thread.

>>300382 TFW my jeet rant has been reposted by other schizo anons so much that the image is getting crusty

>>300457 >Kafekafe Speaking of, Kafekafe literally got outed for liking belly pics and lingerie images of this one 15 year old asian girl but then everything got sweeped under the rug because likes became private not long after. I think I've only seen maybe 3 other people even mention this. It's so bizarre how he's just gotten away with being an actual creep and seemingly no one cares?

>>300484 SHE WAS FIFTEEN, 11 MONTHS AND 28 DAYS OLD YOU SICK FUCK stfu kiked moralfaggot.

>>300468 I never got this mindset from people. You do understand that your waifus are OCs?

>>300492 why do you rape children anon

>>300499 Most people's "waifus" are designed by committee by Soytendo to appeal to as many M/Zillennials as possible and turn them into life-long goonslaves. I wouldn't consider Samus an OC. She isn't even a character. When most people ask for "waifus" they mean gacha/video game character gather than Asuka or Haruhi, who are the original creations of a single author. If we're being charitable there's an assumption that an author/mangaka has been published then their characters must be of higher quality because someone else has "signed off" on them, but that's taking a very charitable view of the publishing industry, especially in Japan. Actually I think the only meaningful difference is that authors who've written a complete story or devs who've made a game featuring their perfect girl as the main heroine are better writers than artists on twitter who are too lazy to come up with more than sketches of their OCs in situations or that write "forever comics" that don't really have any goal in mind beyond making their creator money on patreon till the sun goes out, but when it comes to porn I'm not asking for War and Peace.

>>300510 Samus has a character, it's just conveyed subtly throughout the series, most people just aren't aware of it because it would require playing Metroid games to notice. I agree with everything else you said though. I think the main difference between OCs and established characters (excluding scope) is that OCs tend to be pretty unrefined, they usually exist for the creator's own fulfillment rather than to tell a story.

>>300484 >>300492 Twitter has seen a surge in new users who self-identify as minors since the Musk buyout and I'll never understand it. Voluntarily revealing that you're 15-17 y/o on social media was the last thing you'd do if this were the late '00s/early '10s.

>>300499 >You do understand that your waifus are OCs? "OCs" that people grow genuine attachment for through the series they're from, versus social media OCs that do not exist to anyone but the person that came up with them and who typically have bad designs to boot because character design is harder than people seem to realize

>>300527 Because younger zoomers and gen alpha are fucking mushbrained retards.

>>300444 >As in the worst the anatomy gets, more grotesque proportions I have no idea what you mean anon >>300450 Harry potter never made any sense to me, mostly because rowling cannot write to save her life. I cannot believe there is any jeopardy in a setting where portrait clones of people, boots with pocket dimensions, and time travel devices given to 13yo girls exist. This slop is for faggots and post-wall women only. >Tumblrinas and their lapdogs are so morally sound It astounds me that in 2026, long after men have realized that listening to women is a terrible idea in every situation, there are still low-T cucks orbiting mid women in the hopes of a pity fuck. >>300527 >Voluntarily revealing that you're 15-17 y/o on social media was the last thing you'd do if this were the late '00s/early '10s Keeping information private used to the one inarguable rule everyone adhered to, but like >>300548 points out zoomers are born retarded.

>>300510 >>300521 Okay, I get the distribution but like when artist show their OCs, it's the same intent as a company doing it and you can usually get a better idea of the character because you can just ask the creator right then and there. I also love how people can say they rather an established character for their lore but in the same breath say they can't stand backstory in their porn and commission said company character to be as out of character as possible by being a fat fuck toy. Let's just be honest, you like the look of the character and that's okay, it doesn't have to have a deep meaning. But to pretend established characters aren't just OCs at the basic level is stupid and I never got the distaste for it. I may not like every OC and artist makes but not everything is going to be a hit/cater to your taste and people can improve their character development and storytelling with time and legit feedback.

>>300243 Can some TLDR the whole drama?

>>300558 Yet another virtue signalling moralfag was outed

What with all of the Asuka pictures? It's her birthday?

>>300455 Jokes on them, the download button doesn't even work, you have zoom in the image and press right click or a simple screencap >>300549 Not to mention the whole CalArts abominations that somehow in day and age are still getting fat arts despite looking it was drawn by preschoolers, whether be Adventure Time or Steven Universe, thank god fat artists let Regular Show die because those threads at /alt/ were fucking awful >>300564 The same thing I was wondering about Teto from Vocaloid, what about the other vocaloids? And why the fuck people are making different iterations of Miku instead of drawing the other vocaloids? >>300499 Thing is: corporate backed OC's they do look like they spend effort on them, social media OC's have the charisma of Sonichu and for no reason every fat artist must throw their hat into the ring just to get that precious clout.

>>300564 >What with all of the Asuka pictures? There was an Eva short film that released that was Asuka focused. It was a "Con only" exclusive but has since then been posted on twitter and taken down multiple times before just being posted online officially now

>>300558 The same as >>300561 Another moralfag artist whose friend was banned from a server due to a grooming case and instead of distancing himself from him, called the people who banned him 'pedophiles' for drawings of canonically underage characters, while he selectively talked to and followed lolicon artists and he kept defending the groomer, classic. They got called out for all this, his friend left social media for being exposed, and Chillday made a document to respond with pathetic excuses Well, there goes another artist who pretended to be 'moral', nothing new in this community...

>>300564 >>300583 Camrips were being shared and DMCA'd, and apparently Studio Khara mistakenly leaked the full short in their takedown emails. When that was leaked, they just decided to drop it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ju8O7a89g >>300571 >The same thing I was wondering about Teto from Vocaloid, what about the other vocaloids? Because Teto is popular enough to be get her own Goodsmile figures now. And because she likes french bread, she's practically tailor-made for FA/Feedist fanart. >And why the fuck people are making different iterations of Miku instead of drawing the other vocaloids? Miku is more popular than ever, but also her v6 design has been making the rounds lately, with her new voicebank set to release next month. See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teA1BPNCAQY

>>300549 >Keeping information private used to the one inarguable rule everyone adhered to Something that kinda killed that was to an extent Myspace but absolutely more the advent of Facebook being the strange death knell. The thing that personally pisses me the fuck off though is the literal fact that most of 'us' tended to get like an online safety and civics course that was drilled into elementary students in the early '00's and yet fucking NO ONE IS TEACHING THIS TO THEIR FUCKING CROTCH FRUIT OF THEIR OWN ACCORD.

>>300549 >Harry potter never made any sense to me It was a mixture of right place/right time and the writing being serviceable enough while also giving people a barebones world to play with. I personally really enjoyed the books, but I'm also aware of the incredibly dumb story elements and shoddy worldbuilding. That said, drawing porn of any of the characters is unhinged. >>300551 I think the distaste for OCs is when it takes up an artist's slot or when a few bad ones become so prevalent that it's basically a meme. To say "I hate OCslop" is really dumb because, like you said, every character is basically an OC. Characters like Tifa/Saber/Makima can be learned about via osmosis, but there's plenty of popular established characters that have absolutely no story but are still well-liked. There's also the fact that established characters get drawn out of character constantly. What's funny is the point >>300461 was making was specifically about Pixiveo and Kip's OCs getting drawn, but >>300468 took it as an opportunity to bitch about original characters. 90% certain this is the same guy who said previously that he didn't understand why ARTISTS would draw OCs in the first place. >>300571 >and for no reason every fat artist must throw their hat into the ring just to get that precious clout. There is not a single artist that's going to draw original characters for "clout". They'd be better served drawing Nintendo/FotM characters if they wanted numbers/engagement. I do agree that the community is really lacking in good OCs, but this is also why I'd like to see artists try their hand at them more, and not less.

>>300571 >CalArts abominations The prevalence of that slop is entirely due to zoomer nostalgia and any artist drawing fat of she for those shows ate tide pods as a teenager >>300610 >while also giving people a barebones world to play with I've seen people describe star wars, star trek, and similar large franchises the same way. The cast is dreadfully dull, but the settings fascinate certain types of people. Funny how all three basically have no reason for conflict due to limitless resources available at the snap of a finger, but that's gen x writing for you. More to the point for this site, none of the harry potter girls or the calarts shows look remotely good to begin with and slapping 200lbs on one of them doesn't help. Instead of appreciating a woman with a fuller form, its just plain degen fetish content at that point

>>300243 Google Dockie