/bbfurries/ - BB Furries

>>112107 I'll be honest, the shading the only thing I don't like about most of Viro's drawings The best way I can describe it is that the shading looks "greasy" or "muddy".

>>112560 I'd have to agree. He uses excessive shadows and highlights creating all these strange contours and washing out the colors. Like with the new Marci pic, her face has this unflattering contouring around her cheeks and she's so pale as to be almost white. This problem disappears with the flat colors and linework so it's a shading issue moreso. For shading, a little goes a long way. Very little on the surface of a body exposed to ambient light should warrant such deep dark shadows on them. It's a shame as the pics themselves are really good. Check out the flats for comparison

Page 5 of Hetty vs Marci was released on deviantart a few days ago. It seems like Jimmy is both fed up with Hetty's bitchy behavior and is highly suspicious of this rather super sketchy vacation offer. I kind of wish that Viroveteruscy would focus on this comic more, as I'm still interested in what direction the plot will go in. I doubt that would happen, since the artist has multiple on going projects, some of which are being worked on just as slowly (such as WCF chapter 5), in addition to making all his regular artwork. Maybe if Jimmy reluctantly accepts the vacation offer and he and Hetty arrive at the resort in the next few pages, the plot could really get going.

>>112563 I agree as well. The flat colored and even the cell shaded ones are great, but the ones where the shading is blurred look mediocre.

>>112107 >>112130 I noticed that Viroveteruscy's art quality tends to vary a lot in his paid art sets, such as those titled 'Hush', 'Underground Collection', and 'Fat Lovers Club'. I do not want to suspect that the art in those sets are rushed or made with less effort, but it does look like to me that Virovereteuscy tends to get very experimental with his separate paid content. Perhaps the artist feels safer experimenting in his paid work, because only his more loyal fans would pay for it and might seem to be less critical of it (despite paying). Sometimes the art turns out great, and other times, not so much. >>112560 >>112563 If you ask me, I think the shading is fine almost all the time. It's the body shapes and fat proportions that sometimes appear ugly and gross. I would suggest going through Viroveteruscy's older paid content for comparison, as I could name of a few other such pieces that have this problem. I get to see all this content eventually get leaked for free, so I really don't care if I think that the quality is sometimes bad. But I certainly would not pay for these art sets otherwise. Also, considering that Viroveteruscy gladly (yet slowly) posts his high quality, long form comics for free anyway, I really don't see much of a reason to pay $15 for just two singular art pieces (that sometimes come with basic alternates) or pay for a patreon subscription, even if his artwork was ALWAYS top quality.

Also, what do you all think about Viroveteruscy's A.I. serries? I wasn't too interested in his first weight gain video of his O.C. named Ziy Banza, or the first two episode of his A.I serries titled 'Sable City'. However, I found his third episode (linked below) to be somewhat interesting. https://youtu.be/mYuisxMW_x4 I know that A.I. animation and A.I. voice acting still isn't very good yet. It's easy to call content like this A.I. slop. However, Viroveteruscy designed all the characters, the city setting, presumably wrote all the dialogue, conceptualized the overall narrative of his serries, and specifically directs the scenes for the A.I. to animate. While the 3D animation doesn't look too great and is filled with inconsistencies (noticeably more than with quality, human made 3D animation), there is still admittedly some creative effort. How Viroveteruscy depicted drug addition is also rather interesting. The characters in episode 3 are severally financially burdened to pay for their drugs, which are also presumably illegal. The drug's high only lasts a short time, while the rest of the experience seems to be analogous to being drowned in viscous black liquid. And yet, that high is so addictive, the drug user still come back for more every week. Ignoring the fact that the animation is made with A.I., the video was a decent watch.

Eh I tried watching that stuff but the animation being so mistake riddled and incoherent was just too much to actually pay attention to the plot or, in the case of the feast one, the fattening. Since i couldn't actually make it through Sable city I can't say anything on the plot, the animation was just bad enough for me to not care tbh

>>112568 It's a somewhat decent setting but there doesn't appear to be one defining story, instead going more for vignettes. Slices of the shitty lives of the denizens in this miserable place. Maybe hope can prevail in overwhelming regret? More accurately, I suspect it's all just an excuse to bring out more gothic maid characters and weird killer sexbots, and hey more power to the guy to find an outlet for such things.

>>112566 Same anon who called the shaded art "mediocre" here. Now that I think about it more, the word I used is way too strong to describe the art, sorry.

>>112576 Different anon here, do you think he'd actually put out pages to his comics, or art faster if they didn't shade everything?

>>112089 here hoping someone gets the rouge one

>>112617 The dude does like his art. Even in light of other issues his comics face regarding pacing and plot, his focus is always on improving the art as if that will be the answer to all his problems. In some ways it's maddening and arguably shows a disdain for the writing side of the craft but I digress. I don't think he'll be giving up color anytime soon.

>>105536 Wonder why anyone hasn't posted it yet

>>112617 Definitely. Have you seen any of his art streams? Shading takes forever.

>>112798 Which is funny Becuase You would think with such simple ass shapes you'd think he would be quicker then artists who have to make actual anatomical correct characters like BWS or Cloudboyo. Or other cartoonist like Trinity-Fate or Arkveveen. Like bro really needs to stop over rendering a piece and just post sometimes.

I for one quite liked the cel-shaded look as shown here >>108761

>>112567 >>112574 And on the note about Sable City.. >I know that A.I. animation and A.I. voice acting still isn't very good yet. Viro, please can you ditch the AI voice work and just have it be silent/ pantomimed? I can forgive the visual incongruities and the frequent cuts but the flat, terrible voice work just kills the vibe entirely. Either make it silent or look to hire a VA within the scene since it's not like there aren't people doing such things already.

>>112805 Same. Sometimes simpler is just better. Less can be more!

>>112805 >>112563 I think this is what Viro's doing essentially

You know its really intresting to see actual discussion/critique about the artists art style and stuff and not see people just endlessly argue, its refreshing

>>112863 Viro overall is a good artist I'd say, but he needs work on the shading.

>>112869 This is the thing. He's a good artist who's built himself goodwill over the years. I hope he realises that even with critiques aside, he still is admired within the scene.

>>112851 Exactly demonstrates the point. Sometimes it is good just like the example you showed. Then other times it's "muddy" like what the other anon said. Literally, he's doing too much. He should take a step back with the shading and just go for a simpler top-down approach with the lighting.

I hate how Viro manages their Patreon and art, he just posts whenever he likes instead of having like a proper order, and we're falling for it

>>111051 also im planning to post the whole comic but the r9k bs is blocking me to post them

we got a full resolution of this one

>>113101 I would put the pages into a folder compress said folder then use gofile if it's giving that much trouble

Not really related to anything, but I just RANDOMLY found Viro commenting on a Youtuber I watch— I had to do a double check to make sure it actually WAS them—

>>113118 Alright, here this is the rest of the comic. I'm just uploading this because Viro really needs to focus on finishing one comic instead of 1 page each month for one of his projects. https://gofile.io/d/FY0v75yF

First of all, thanks for all the pages Second I definitely agree, viro really has the habit of trying to do several projects at once but it makes each one take so damn long

>>113245 Thats good and all but... Where's the rest of the epilogue?

>>113247 What I hates the most is that sometimes I feel he's doing it on purpose so he can mantain the people on the tier and take the extra money

>>113191 Where did you find this? Does this mean Viro’s the one posting all the Kamen Rider on this site?

>>113297 You fool...

https://youtu.be/v9nSQfiY__k?is=HTAkWuQMaH3H4gyp

>>113253 >>113245 All this discussion about this reminds me of this panel from Ihhat

>>113249 Why are you asking for something that doesn't exist?

>>113329 Because Im one of people from viro server here and he made 7 page more for epilogue

>>113245 Wow, thank you for sharing. This was certainly a neat comic and it was nice to see the good parts early. Hopefully the epilogue will get completed and posted sometime in the following months. Caitlin is not like Marcy, and Lorance is certainly nothing like Skylar. Yet, the two have plenty of similarities to Viroveteruscy's far more popular couple. I suppose the artist wanted to explore somewhat different couple dynamics. I did have trouble taking the romance drama seriously with Lorance acting like a fool the entire time. Lorance accepting Hexava's offer without first thinking to ask about the type of work he would be obligated to complete or the measurable metrics in which Caitlin's body fat would be removed (kind of like the magical terms and conditions of the deal) was just stupid. That is also ignoring the fact that he immediately got blatantly swindled, as apparently much of Caitlin's new body fat was (clearly) not organic, and was instead the result of some "aura" substance that Hexava gladly took from Caitlin anyway. Despite this, the narrative was refreshing otherwise, and the art was more than up to par for Viroveteruscy. Also, I had a few other notes. A narration box on page 42 states "A Minutes Later". I suspect that it was supposed to have been '(A / 1 ) minute later'. Caitlin states "I'd LOVE date you" on page 59. I know Caitlin was dealing with some intense emotions, but I think she was instead supposed to say 'I'd (I would) LOVE to date you'. I also see a potential flaw in Hexava's deal. If Caitlin rigorously works out to quickly lose her excess body fat naturally to return to her previous physique, Lorance would be free from Hexava's deal much earlier than anticipated. Of course, this is a weight gain comic, so of course that is NOT going to happen. But it is a funny idea. I really just read these furry weight gain comics for the plot and the writing.

>>113371 Viro should take a leaf from doujins to understand their simple story structure better. No unnecessary dialogue or tortured convolutions in the story. They don't make the story feel clever, they just come across as clunky and contrived. The guy has a bad habit for over-explaining things, as if he can't trust that the reader will pick up tacit cues and subtlety. What happens is that scenes get drawn out with conversations. Case in point: >Black Circus: Janet talking with Jo-Ann >IHHAT Vol 2: Andy talking with Emerald (while shopping for clothes, another of Viro's fixations) and more talking with Liz. >Hetty Vs Marci: Jimmy talking with Hetty >Cream Filled #5: Plum talking with damn near all her sisters. It's all just talking. Talking talking talking. Nothing is actually happening, and when stuff finally happens it gets lumped together so it's like clumsy shifting of gears. "Talk time is over, now is sex time". This basically happened in SECRETS - the story ended on Lorance, Hexava and Caitlin all just talking to resolve the story. Viro probably panicked in finding that too boring so now we have a drawn out epilogue where he's trying to cram in all the fun stuff. It just highlights the mishandling of the pacing and the lack of integration of these elements. Less talk, more action. It's a comic: you have free reign to draw something more dynamic and interesting than a talking head. Also trust your reader. Let go of that instinct to explain everything and rationalise the entirety of a situation. People are looking to be entertained, not answers.

>>113374 Just reminded how in Black Circus (for comics and stories of a wilder, darker more chaotic bent) we have a vore story in which it's felt necessary to explain what vore is and how it works. I'll be frank here: who cares? Do the explanations serve to enrich the story at all? Or do they instead serve to distract from the point of the story - Jo-Ann caught in a weird monkeys paw situation where in wanting to become a "big star" she grows into this voracious monster. We don't really care how it happened - the weird mystery is entirely the point. It's like the guy is allergic to mystery or is terrified of people not understanding what's going on.

>>113245 When will you upload the epilogue?

>>113374 Strongly agree, this method just doesn't work. Too much story you bore the ones that one fetish material, too much fetish material you gross out the ones that want story. Don't try to do both, just pick a lane and focus on that. Need dialog in smut? Make it short, punchy, but not overly verbose. We aren't here to read the next great American novel.

>>113297 I just found it randomly on one of the YouTubers I watch. If you're looking for the name, it's DavyReacts. Viro actually commented on their most recent video.

>>113191 I can 100% believe that is Viro, explaining KR minutia. That is absolutely him in his element. As I said before, dude loves explaining things.

>>113307 It's cute that Marci can be a little geeky alongside her old childhood friend Stacy. I find it interesting to consider their relationship, just how much or little they have in common and how the dynamics shifted in the wake of Blake's absence, and Stacy being thrust into the new position of bestie. >"I've tried teaching her En Garde but she can only handle the basics..." :T >"I'm sorry! After a while the numbers get too confusing!" >w<