>>230254 >implying twitter had any measures against scraping whatsoever brother

>>230254 Not entirely sure about what the ToS says but what does Twitter have against scraping that Bluesky doesn't? Also why do you guys keep crying about people not wanting to stay on Elon's bot swamp?

>>230097 >>230290 Bluesky isn't exactly a site that feels like an improvement over twitter. It's essentially facebook for lib retards instead of maga retards. It's filled with fake/toxic positivity. Let's not even go over image compresion being crap and that Bluesky distributes any piece of artwork to sell for offerings. So any artist that willingly uses this app is screwing themselves. But they don't care because they would rather shit on elon and twitter than think critically. God 2016 and post covid just brung out the worst in people.

>>230298 >Muh Elon, muh Trump, muh 2016 Once again I have no idea why any of you are trying to cape for Twitter when literally everyone here hated it not so long ago. Mind you japanese artists are moving away too so it's not just about american politics, the site simply sucks ass

>>230298 >It's filled with fake/toxic positivity. This is probably the saddest way you could have told on yourself, bruh.

>>230304 It's less about caping for Twitter, it's the fact that BlueSky is all the same issues and doesn't have any non-political reason to switch. And even if Twitter dies tomorrow and forces everyone to move, you lose the one benefit of BS -- the filtered community. People like us literally cannot move there without ruining the experience for everyone else. It very much is just "my clique is better than your clique" finger-wagging, else people would have been talking about using stuff like Mastodon, Misskey.io, Fediverse, or any other Twitter clone.

>>230306 Yeah everyone complaining that the site is a hugbox and 'too reddit' is just an overall extension of the fact most the site's early userbase was made up of techies. This is already changing. Some of the end-user controls to mitigate 'toxic' forms of engagement are just more explicit now than they were on twitter. For instance: instead of blocking someone to limit the visibility of your post they're quoting to dunk on, you can just unlink the quoted tweet yourself. It's really not that big of a deal. I'm seeing more pushback against the people encouraging to over-familiarize ourselves with the content filters too; best to turn them all off.

>>230254 It's kind of hilarious that literally every month thousands of people independently rediscover that the TOS of most social media websites has the exact same "we reserve the right to redistribute and modify the content you upload to our platform" clause and instantly go into a "AIEEEEE THEY'RE TRAINING AI ON US AAAAAAAHHH" tizzy. There's also no guarantee that Bluesky won't do the same thing- after all, once all their venture capital funds run out, they'll have to start finding ways to make money eventually by selling user data. If the service is free, you're the product

God why do you all care about which poxy sites artists use? You all sound like bitter ex's. It's just weird.

>Open Twitter >Several new followers >They're are all bots >Get new comments on the drawing I posted yesterday >Some of them were made by bots, some are porn are others are crypto >Look at the likes >Again, more bots Yeah I wonder why people want to leave

>>229705 Zoomers desperately trying to make sure they don't fap to a drawing/3D model of a fictional character that could potentially be under 18 years old is both sad and hilarious.

>>230361 >Their choice of host dictates your experience. Are you the kind of person who would sign up for FurAffinity to get around their R18+ blocker? >Sites have different image quality and upload limits. Would you want an animation to be a .gif or .webm? >Instead of taking the effort to post on multiple sites, artists pick only one and delete the other account out of spite. >Different sites have different rules. You can't get uncensored missionary sex picks on DeviantArt. >Every site wants your data. The more you spread yourself, the more you become known. Sort of important to people on the anonymous image board. There's a lot of reasons to care about which site artists use. Especially when those artists are trying to convince you and the rest of their audience to give up on a site for another. >>230375 >I callout people on pedoish stuff earth's mightiest hero. truly a svaior of children.

>>230375 Call him Elmo the way he projecting.

>>230375 Meh, I'll be whacking to whatever fictional character my dick tells me to till the cows come home, but I understand why zoomers are so hyper-puritan when you consider how they've grown up surrounded by hypersexualised content and so many of them have been exposed to online grooming or know someone who has. They never got the chance to be kids on the internet like we did, and older people find it hard to appreciate the difference between looking for porn on the internet and being surrounded by it.

>>230361 If they were multi-platforming it'd be one thing, but it's because a number of them are saying they're going to delete all their posts/accounts or they'll retaliate by only tossing up heavily filtered shit as opposed to the full piece. We've been through this song and dance so many times at this point and it's getting annoying. It's the same as when an artist goes "Boohoo I"m going to delete, good bye" and they come back a month later. It's also the fact that so many people are misguided because they misunderstood the situation or invented it entirely in their heads. They also fail to realize that AI scraping is such a ubiquitous problem that jumping from one flaming dumpster into another one isn't going to solve anything. It's not very fun to watch people panic and fret over something that's akin to a force of nature. >>230367 I don't think this is a twitter-exclusive problem. Whenever I get anything that looks like a bot I just block it. If I get tagged in bullshit giveaways/crypto scams I block and then report the account. The latter used to happen a lot but I haven't seen one in months. >>230375 "AYO BRO THE OFFICIAL BOOK SAYS SHE'S 17 DID YOU DRAWED HER OLDER OR NOT I'M EDGING SO HARD RIGHT NOW FR FR PLEASE RESPOND" >>230402 >but I understand why zoomers are so hyper-puritan when you consider how they've grown up surrounded by hypersexualised content It's super weird to me. When two highschoolers of different ages dated you didn't think much of it in the past, but nowadays if one is 18 and the other is 16 people want to flip their lids. I kind of get it but when I look at that type of situation I just think "Oh it's just two dumb kids dating in the same school". It's like the pendulum is swinging to both extremes at the same time. On one end you have children being exposed to more things of a hyper sexual nature at younger and younger ages, but on the other end you have 15 year olds wanting to lecture people on CP or putting "I'M 15, NO PEDOS" in their bio. It's like they're being scared straight and having fear pounded into their head as opposed to being taught good online safety. Maybe I'm not looking at this the right way or can't quite articulate how I feel, but something just feels really "off" about everything lately...

>>230375 They do know that if they actually believe this, they're still viewing it, right?

>>230409 This is all strange about zoomers. When I was they age we all was an edgy fuckers on internet.

>>230409 >It's like they're being scared straight and having fear pounded into their head as opposed to being taught good online safety. >Maybe I'm not looking at this the right way or can't quite articulate how I feel, but something just feels really "off" about everything lately... In my opinion it's an orgnaic attitude, not something that's been forced onto them. I think a whole lot of the whole antigroomer zealotry is just young people trying to gatekeep girls their age so they can keep zoomer pussy to themselves, but the general diastase towards any kind of sexualisation of "minors" is authentic and manifests in a lot of different ways, whether it's autism like in that screencap or the whole proship/antiship nonsense you see on twitter. >>230441 >When I was they age we all was an edgy fuckers on internet. And now people our age will ban you for "toxicity" for calling someone a retard in team chat, will dox you for wrongthink if (zoomers nearly always link their accounts to the themselves irl in someway so this is also their fault) and generally create a culture where being an edgy fucker for shits and gigs isn't possible outside of a few dark corners of the internet. Millennials became faggots and turned the internet into a place for fags.

>>230441 I still identify as an attack helicopter.

>>230525 How lovely that you feel safe to come out on such a notoriously bigoted platform. Nature is healing, and I expect this place to be better

>>230580 May G*d bless the trigger-happy censors keeping overgrown toddlers from reading mean words in a borderline shock site.

>>230441 You do gotta remember you grew up in a post-9/11 world. Back-to-back, you got to witness a "death of innocence" moment with the terrorist attacks and watching "the Establishment" blatantly lie to you (and even itself, going by Bush's own accounts). People had zero trust in anything and wanted to see it either change or burn. It is easy to describe the 00's as a very punk era for everyone as there was a lot to complain about and not a lot of interbreeding between groups, so people felt very isolated and even more emboldened to lash out. Many zoomers on the other hand basically grew up on the opposite. "Trust the state", "the laws protect you", "punk people are bad people". Whether this is the consequences of post-PATRIOT Act implementation and its resulting backlash, COVID "proving" the establishment works or at least is needed, how much the Obama-era of global politics was about dressing up language and social justice, or just them being different, they didn't grow up on being edgy motherfuckers on the internet. They have no need to. What is there to rebel against? What systems do they not like and want burn? You can't even fall back on Something Awful-esque "The internet is for idiots" because of how essential it is to everyone's lives (and admitting you are an idiot is no bueno). They don't really have an enemy but the people that came before them, regardless if they are the ones responsible for living in a relatively safer net.

>>230308 >BlueSky is all the same issues BlueSky doesn't have a nonfunctioning block feature that was actively gutted because the manchild who owned the site craves attention above all else. BlueSky doesn't have a subscription feature that encourages an entire economy of ragebait and spam. Bluesky doesn't give said subscribers priority over everyone else, further emboldening said spam economy. Bluesky doesn't have a trending bar that's forced on you. Bluesky doesn't have an AI program shoehorned into it. Bluesky isn't run by an absolute moron that does his hardest to tank any sense of goodwill possible. You'd have to be an idiot to imply that Twitter and BlueSky are remotely the same. Twitter is barely even functional at this point, there's zero redeeming qualities to it.

>>230625 Even if I were to take all your issues as valid, that's not what I am talking about. Twitter is an awful concept of a social media site, and any clone of it is replicating the same fundamental design issues. Threading SMS posts into a web of nonsense was always a terrible idea and Twitter got away with it for being the first, not because it was ever a good idea. The only social media website with an even less sensible concept is Reddit. Even if Xitter is a cesspool that deserves to die...for what reason would I ever want an exact replica to take its place?

It begins...

>>230646 Wherever the sane people go, the trolls try to follow, glad we've been sticking it to them and not actually feeding them, starving them of the engagement they so desperately need

>>230644 If it weren't for Twitter I'd still be getting the news through RSS feeds like it's the mid 2000s. Microblogs and Imageboards are the only forms of Web 2.0 "social media" that are still worth emulating (or otherwise building upon). Everything else has just become a vehicle for ad tech.

>>230625 >Bluesky doesn't give said subscribers priority over everyone else, further emboldening said spam economy. This has been the most frustrating thing to me—much more than the recent block function changes. Bluechecks get priority in the replies and the replies are automatically sorted by 'Most relevant'—as if I want to see what a celebrity (or someone who's paying to look like one) thinks. They are the lowest quality posters on the website and always have been. At least with Bluesky it would seem they are sticking with the idea of their verification 'system' being domain-as-handles and nothing more (for now).

>>230653 >newcomers browbeating the old users to conform to how they think Bluesky should be or how it was going to be >old users reporting newcomers for harassing them because above >mass concentration of people who wanted to flee "the enemy" start eating their own when they realize not all beliefs line up 100% of the time >normal people that got caught up in the exodus are catching strays because of varied beliefs and opinions >mass exodus of artists are getting their NSFW reported >mass exodus of artists are getting their NSFW reported as CSAM because the character is canonically young or just looks young >human nature dictates that we don't always get along with one another >... >there's probably some trolls too Yeah it's just trolls and nothing else.

>>230660 >Actually went through the effort to write this shit unironically Consider therapy

>>230684 They kicked me out of magnet therapy. :(

>>230696 Don't worry anon, me and everybody else on this site will always be there for you. Now, how are you feeling?

>>230698 I'm so tired bros...

>>230375 People like this post here and I am supposed to treat these "people" "nicely" or whatever the expats try to whine about in various threads. The deviantart/tumblr exodus to here, Twitter, etc., was a huge mistake we at large will never recover from.

This might be random but why is so much of this fetish so so sterile. there's some dark stuff here and there. but why do so many fetish artists or writers go through every mental hoop and logic for the end of what their doing to be "I'm fat and happy". not asking for only super morbid stuff. but even after going through things they don't like or describing their dislike or hatred at the end it's just fat and happy and accepting. why not some denial or dislike or things like that?

This might be random but, why do fetish artists or writers end all of their stuff with "i'm fat and happy". Even after having the characters sad, angry or etc. they all come to the end to just be happy and accepting. Sometimes it even feels like the artist/writer jumped through hoops in logic just for it to end on a happy note. I'm not asking for only super dark stuff or anything. But some denial, dislike or something other than just "yeah I'm fat and can't do much but I'm happy". Just seems kinda boring

Thought my first one didn't send. My bad

Why are so many faggots acting like Bluesky is the Old Twitter with all the positivity? > open up bluesky logged out + private browsing > new brooklyn dad tweet > random eyecatching pictures like the night sky or fucking mushrooms (that would otherwise be suspect for botspam on twitter) > jack hopkins > lincoln project > john collins > ron filipkowski > more photograph botposts > random activist saying how "chill bluesky is" > george conway > adam kinzinger > more aesthetic slop > Finally! A regular-ass tweet pertaining to Arcane! > marc "God's Chosen Party" elias > tweets trying to mimic 2000s/early 2010s twitter That site is doomed. Keep faking your positivity, libtards. Retards like ChunkerChunks nuking their Twitter profiles are gimping any and all following they might've had. At least Regular Brick had the foresight to just stop posting on Twitter.

>>230726 Because for most people depressing shit just isent hot. It's a niche.

>>230731 This whole thing just made me realize there were a lot of these artists that craved to be back on that shithole called tumblr and never really stopped. Which frankly, I wish tumblr never killed itself. It really was a great floodgate for these morons because you never took them seriously cause “tumblr”. Sometime during the migration to Twitter we suddenly started thinking they should be listened to for some reason.

>>230657 >If it weren't for Twitter I'd still be getting the news through RSS feeds like it's the mid 2000s. You say that like it's a bad thing! >Microblogs and Imageboards are the only forms of Web 2.0 "social media" that are still worth emulating (or otherwise building upon) But Twitter and its clones suck as microblogs. Weak customization, image quality crunch, text limits, the stupid thread system that makes it nigh-impossible to track a consistent conversation. If you go on someone's profile, you can't even see if they are in the middle of a conversation! Why is the blogging software designed to not let me see me blogging?? >>230731 To be fair, they don't want "Old Twitter". They want pre-Musk Twitter. The positivity is more a bonus that even they have to admit cannot last.

>>230739 Ironic then considering the fetish in general. As i said tho it's not specifically only depressing things either. It's the absence of anything that's not 100% acceptance and love from every single source in whatever work the artists/writer makes.

>>230749 It's all a fantasy and health issues is a Content Warning anyhow. They make it for themselves first, edgelords second. Take that in regards to how much love they get in a day for yourself.

>>230753 Again I'm not talking only depressing stuff. I'm not some edge lord trying to see some gruesome stuff or death or health issues exclusively or anything. I'm wondering about the lack of denial or dislike and thugs of such as well.

>>230753 I can only speak for myself but the appeal for me is less "fat" exactly and more the proportions. I find the girls attractive regardless of their weight but them being huge can be a fun scenario. I'm totally aware of the negative aspects in reality and wouldn't wish that on anyone, it's more a fantasy idea if anything. >>230754 You mean just general complaining about what happened or pretending everything's not out of hand? That stuff's fine. I see it from time to time but I haven't seen any artists focus on it. You can probably break the fetish up into different camps since it's clear not everyone's drawn to it for the same reasons

>>230754 Is it really worth wondering? Again, it is about indulging in themselves and the fantasy. If you really want to break it down like that, it is just mostly the desire for escapism. If there is a message, it just the same progressive media culture of 'accepting yourself and everything' that is still popular and needed at points. At WORST, its Health At Any Size posturing but even then you have to be our degree of brainrotten to worry about that. Most fetish places are built by and for that socially-liberal kind of person. Not to a "Coffee Shop AU" degree, but definitely leaning towards such cause that is the fantasy they want to live in. A serious/semi-serious story that ends in on a kind-of-sour note that isn't written for themselves is a very niche concept. It really isn't a puzzle worth expending brain power solving. You don't have to "let them be happy", there's plenty of more bittersweet stories around. But you can't be shocked that there are a lot of people that glaze over the obvious bad stuff of obesity. >>230758 There is a bit of a shame that the nature of writing means you can't really just make it about the proportions. It always has to be tangible in your setting and that usual means its an inconvenience. That's hot in its own right but it does mean you have to dive deeper into the raw fat appreciation well than just "big belly gud".

>>230758 Yeah things like that. Like the inconveniences, the exhaustion and such

>>230759 I don't really have an issue with that or anything. I can enjoy this fetish with or without those things. I was mostly wondering. And I guess it was a worthless question in general since if they like it they'll go about it like you said with the whole "everything and everyone is good no matter what even if extremely obese" plus the fetish already has a bad reputation too so. As I said in my reply above this I think. It's also just lack of anything other than positivity. Not necessarily hate but just how it's always like and if there's dislike then they learn to love it or something. But as you mentioned it's pointless and not really worth thinking about. So apologies for the waste of time and thread space.

>>230759 Unrelated but RounderSofter has been in the game since 2008 IIRC, and he still is consistent with his work. Another person I could think of, in that same vein, is probably Kawaiidebu. But hey, that's just my opinion.

>>230759 >If there is a message, it just the same progressive media culture of 'accepting yourself and everything' that is still popular and needed at points. At WORST, its Health At Any Size posturing but even then you have to be our degree of brainrotten to worry about that. Most fetish places are built by and for that socially-liberal kind of person I was going to argue with you about that but I'm probably letting political brainrot get to my head reacting to the words "progressive" and "socially-liberal" and thinking the buzzwords first. I can see the argument you're making though