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Civil Discussion 4ever Civil Discussion 4ever 11/11/2024 (Mon) 00:44:24 Id:b86255 No. 229373
Previous thread: https://bbw-chan.link/bbwdraw/res/225065.html Hopefully people were able to get out what they wanted to get out in the last thread regarding “recent events”. Schizoness is to be expected though. Lets have meaningful discussions about drawings of fat chicks. To start with, is there a drive or sequence that any of you guys particularly are super bummed got abandoned?
>>229373 >To start with, is there a drive or sequence that any of you guys particularly are super bummed got abandoned? Cookies-Cat has abandoned a lot of comics already, but I'm really disappointed he never continued his Debu jez comic. The plot sounded promising and the first pages with the random girl gaining weight is one of the hottest things he has ever drawn. What a shame.
>>229373 You know damn well the schizo talk will just resume right? The only way to stop this shit is to stop making this a general board and make a fat discussion board and ban all schizo talk.
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>>229381 Anon, don't freak out, but...there is a general board.
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>>229373 I do not care for The Domino Effect
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>"I fucking HATE troo- ACK!"
>>229419 thats fair. i largely stay just cause the art itself it just really good. but i get why some people say the story is just pretty meh
https://bbw-chan.link/gen/ Go here, jackass
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>>229436 It takes 1 second.
>>229429 You sound molested.
>>229419 I don't really get the web-comic format of it, does anyone actually prefer comics to be that way? So much scrolling, random white space, thumbnails don't work. I haven't really dove into it yet because just opening one of those pages feels like a whole commitment.
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>>229373 This one. >She has only the top of the dress, revealing a nice fat potbelly poking out >She said herself she has been starving herself so she could fit into the dress >The next page, she was just about to eat a good ammount of the cake (if not ALL of it) >Wedding dresses involves C O R S E T S I feel sad that it was dropped only 2 pages in, because it had the potential to become a great corset bursting story.
>>229436 >pasting the URL lmao
>>229419 I wish it was a bit more grounded and less inspired by shitty anime tropes (Food Wars ALWAYS sucked). Also there are way too many plotlines and the drama leans too much into soap opera levels at times >>229445 It's not really that deep. They're meant to be read on phones so there's no point in following the established comic formats and panelling. Each "page" is also pretty much an entire chapter
>>229373 Obligatory Dinner With Sister answer. I'm also really sad no one ever bothered to tackle Food Fighter Misaki. This has been on my mind for over a decade. https://e-hentai.org/g/817996/ad6fc1a5ac/ >>229445 Infinite scrolling comics does help make the field feel like it is advancing. When you look at stuff like Order of the Stick who is DEADSET on keeping with traditional comic formatting lessons, you get a lot of awkward situations and writing compromises. That said, the way DeviantArt CRUSHES the quality of infinite scrolling works really does make Domino Effect off-putting for me too.
>>229445 "Random white spaces" is meant for pages looking less busy and more clear. Also longer white/ empty spaces are supposed to emulat page turns or scene transitions. >>229463 There is only like 3 plotlines,1. why girls is getting fatter 2. Nikolai's past/ Sara relation to Niko's past 3. Whats up with the missing person at the start of Nina's arc on the TV, which might be related to 1. >>229493 The quality looks fine on DA if you two click on the browser, phone you have to use the app I think or something
>>229419 Are you the same guy who posted this exact image, exact line, 2-3 threads ago? Kek
>>229445 Long page is garbage made for tablet/phone users to easily scroll through, with minimal work needed on the artists side for shit like backgrounds. >>229493 >When you look at stuff like Order of the Stick who is DEADSET on keeping with traditional comic formatting lessons, you get a lot of awkward situations and writing compromises Some people just don't know how to make good comics.
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>Another fat artist leaves for the echo chamber and while doing so deletes his entire account on Twitter Why can't more fat artists have balls of steel. This shit is so annoying to delete your account and render it unarchivable
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>>229563 How retarded are these idiots? It's wishful thinking that abandoning a website for a new one with blackjack and hookers will take off. (It won't.)
bluesky somehow sucks more than twitter and the choice to go there is another example of the collective Destrudo of the fat bitch artists (the draw towards self-destruction is merited) When they discover that it's run by 'crypto AI dudebros' or whatever rape victim shit they say they'll somehow find an even shittier website I killed Hannibal btw
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>>229563 Do you dumbass bumbass niggers not have an email? It takes less than a minute to make a Blusky account. You are acting like they are gone forever just cuz you gotta fucking click a different link now ot get your fatty wank.
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>>229567 Nobody wants to do this especially for worse twitter that will be (notionally) dead in a year once everyone there finishes bitching about Elon.
>>229563 Does Woot still even draw? All I know him for now is Scooby Doo edits and bikes. >>229567 The issue isn't finding them, the issue is the gallery getting wiped, with some of those pieces being lost to time or being uploaded in an inferior state. I've been hearing Bluesky's image compression is worse than Twitter's. There's also the fact that we've been through this song and dance a few times now and almost everybody comes crawling back when everyone stops caring about shiny new site that totally doesn't have AI scraping.
>>229569 Bitch nobody cares about what you want. Artists don't want to get harassed by neonazis. My twitter feed is fill with trump dick riding and suck that I'm surprised half that site isn't shitting cum. I just want to see fatty wank. I don't care where it's from.
>>229563 Hey, him posting for on Deviantart is a plus I'd say.
At this point, I should learn to draw myself rather than deal with primadonna artists who follow dumb rumors/trends to stay relevant rather than be popular based on their art.
>>229563 Pretty sure literally everything Woot has posted on Twitter is on Deviantart though, shitty edits and all. Honestly there are plenty of valid reasons to leave that shitty site (too many fucking bots, for starters) so if artists leave with an accessible archive or gallery somewhere else that's fine
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Artists who DFE'd their twitter when they get 0 (zero) commission requests on bluesky because the entire userbase is mainly other broke artists.
I just want people to go back to DA... I miss those golden days. Who killed Hannibal
>>229567 One thing to stop posting. A whole 'nother thing to delete archival work. Do you understand?
>>229614 So we really are just actively ignoring the userbase of bluesky here
>>229567 Do you guys not have phones?
>>229579 >Artists don't want to get harassed by neonazis. Whenever I hear this it sounds less like people are receiving actual harassment and more like people are inventing a boogeyman to scare themselves with. Assholes are a constant of the internet regardless of political leaning. If you get a mean comment the best thing you can do is to block them and move on, because these people crave reactions. When you announce that they're getting under your skin, you're just emboldening them. >My twitter feed is fill with trump dick riding Then you're doing something wrong. The Following tab will only be filled with stuff from people you're following, and the For You tab is filled with stuff that's curated based on what you view/interact with. Either you're engaging with politics yourself or you're following people who do. Any time I see anything even remotely political I know exactly which person I'm following is causing it, or I was dumb enough to click on a trending topic.
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You gotta have some sort of mental illness for this kind of behaviour right? If you were fooled into thinking a cartoon character is a grown ass woman, maybe it doesn't fucking matter if the author comes out one day and reveals the arbitrary number attached to her age is actually below 18. You can't possibly care this much without being actually autistic or something.
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>>229705 York got that Jiron head shape fr fr
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>>229681 What userbase? It's a few Twittards that stay there out of cope.
>>229705 "You gotta understand, children are at risk. If you like York then clearly you're somebody who stalks playgrounds because she's clearly underaged" I don't understand it either
>>229579 I am an artist with a 20k plus fallowing and I never was harrased by a single person. But I just post art. Feed full of lefty shit and crying about lateral Hytler orange man. I like to screenshot the most bizzare ones and share them with friends. >>229705 York is a cibernetic body piloted by a part of Vegapunks mind. She is not even a human and you can see her separated body parts at the vault. >>229719 Same autism activism as I never witness a single person who would fly to help they precious ISIS refugee instead of posting flags on twitter
>>229716 Yeah, the "few twittards" being the 1k active users out of their 10k inactive users of twitter. Might be fewer followers, but it's more interaction.
>>229563 2012: "why do these fat artists have to move to tumblr??? dont they know that site is filled with sjws??? i refuse to make an account there" 2018: "why do these fat artists have to move to twitter??? dont they know that site is filled with libcucks??? i refuse to make an account there." 2024: "why do these fat artists have to move to bluesky??? dont they know that site is filled with twittards??? i refuse to make an account there" Same as it ever was.
>>229705 this dude definitely considers Yamato trans despite the vivre cards stating otherwise so this is hilarious
>>229498 No he's not, actually! That was me; I'm charmed; glad to see others share my take.
>>229563 With woot the only archive I care about is old iiichan website; it's probably older than some lurkers here at this point. https://woot.iiichan.net/
>>229563 Also Newsweek published an article concerning rumors that Twitter is going to merge with Truth Social. This comes after Twitter saw its highest drop in users to date over the past two weeks. https://www.newsweek.com/will-truth-social-merge-elon-musks-x-rumors-swirl-1982993
>>229716 >What userbase? https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3larljiybf22v
>>229751 This is mostly shitlibs angry about how they lost an election in a landslide. There's a clear ceiling on meaningful interaction for bsky fat of she art, and the discoverability for new artists is virtually non-existent. However, it might still succeed because artists are retards who crave their own suffering
There's simply too much on Twitter and the ability to find new people and get a feed that caters to your own interests is unmatched. In comparison, Bluesky is just the same artists you already follow spaced intermittently between a #Resist wine aunt kvetching about Democracy™
>>229764 bluesky's baseline 'Discover' feed has been working pretty well for me in finding most of the fat fetish artists I follow on twitter (JP and otherwise), so much to the point I haven't bothered curating my own yet. I'm getting annoyed over all the circlejerking over the enhanced user controls though.
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>>229705 As much as I don't care about One Piece and Oda, this constant situation has been the most I've been entertained by the big 3. >>229729 >York is a cibernetic body piloted by a part of Vegapunks mind. So a cyborg with a piece of her mind shoved in it or an android being operated through wifi? >She is not even a human and you can see her separated body parts at the vault Never stopped them pulling this shit in the past. God help the Kost-Mos fans had Xenosaga been released within this decade. >>229768 >JP I'll laugh my ass off at the western artists fleeing but it's a real punch to the gut that the Japanese are following those lemmings off the cliff.
>>229777 Some of them have already and more plan to on the 15th. It's the distinctly Japanese autism towards copyright infringement that's the prime motivator, but the bot problem is HORRIBLE in Japan and was one of the first people hit by it. There's an army of Indian/Pakistani bots over there and it makes the replies unreadable. "Impression zombies"
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>>229777 >Never stopped them pulling this shit in the past. God help the Kost-Mos fans had Xenosaga been released within this decade. Okay, Epstein. We're putting you on a list Stuff like this is why these debates are so funny
>>229419 I think Belt is just smart to release it in long strips of multiple pages as one compared to other artists. I feel like most bitching would be avoided for them, if they just built up 4 pages and released together. If Belt did release like most artists here do, I think you would hear more bitching.
>>229642 DeviantArt has been trash for years and getting worse now. Search engine is a pile of crap that will ignore tags and use words in the description for results. It's AI suppression basically doesn't work at all, and the site is full of useless bloat and functionality.
>>229563 I found out Magicstraw deleted their Twitter which I just find silly. You’re “MIA” or retired, don’t interact and only rarely lurk, but only NOW is the time to delete your account. Corny ass people man.
>>229716 And what's Twitter userbase anyway? At this point I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of the active userbase is just bots
>>229786 I disagree, I have no AI images popping up on my feed after enabling AI suppressing, only some slip through once in a while due to people not tagging appropriately. tags always work when I click on them and over time DA has added lot of useful functionality for people to use to upload works.
>>229777 York is a robotic thing but she is piloted by the main brain which is belong to scientist Vegapunk, and this brain exists outside of her body. Anyway she is an adult by any means, she was one of the creations who should assist Vegapunk, made to represent a part of his mind. So wtf is underage, old man literally created all of the Punks one day, this retard probably never read manga
>draw a woman >call her a man why do they do this?
>>229952 It's hot for Astolfo to call you gay.
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>>229786 God, Deviantart search. It used to work fine, there must be some stupid penny-pinching reason that it abruptly changed a couple years ago to shove random junk at you that you didn't search for. Here's an example for people who don't use DA. I just searched for "fat Reimu" and the results I get are: -Pictures of Reimu where she isn't fat -Pictures of other, non-Reimu Touhou characters, but they're at least fat -Pictures of non-Reimu Touhous who aren't even fucking fat -And, scattered amongst all this, some actual fat Reimus. Like, what the hell kind of "search" is that? It seems to drag up anything vaguely related to just one of your keywords. Here's a tip that can help, though - I've found that the search filters out a lot of the unrelated stuff if you sort by Most Recent, for some reason.
>>229729 >im an artist with 20k followers Give us a name, or you’re lying either about your follower account or your identity.
>>229959 >there must be some stupid penny-pinching reason that it abruptly changed a couple years ago to shove random junk at you that you didn't search for. I’m pretty sure it’s the same thing google and other such sites are doing nowadays where making it to where the search sucks makes it take longer to find what you want which means you stay on the site longer and make them more money. Overall, fuck google.
>>229959 Hey, at least DAs search is still a godsend compared to twitter's search. That shit is horrendous
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>>229373 Can anyone explain the story of Bamboo-Ale/Toroboro? The guy's had a lot of weird history so I want to get a better understanding. I'm not trying to complain, I really just want to know From my understanding, he's made art for a while, I think he deleted his account, made a new one, made more art, worked with Tron on the Forks weight gain visual novel, redid the character portraits for the game like two times, announced that he's permanently quitting art, nuked his accounts, in two weeks he made a new account saying he's returned, made more art, deleted his accounts a few more times because he's dramatic, then he started sharing a Twitter account with some other artist Am I missing anything? Is there any reason for all this? What's he doing now?
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>>229780 2yr old was the hotter toaster.
>>230004 Okay, first and foremost let me correct you stating that despite the memes Bamboo and Toroboro/Foxfire are not the same person. They're close friends and collaborate together but they are still different artists with different styles. You get the general gist more or less right. After the Toroboro account and Forks he was severely burned out from all the work he did for Forks and another game he was doing with Tron (I can't even remember the name but that one had a messy development too) along with the pressures of keeping up with his Patreon so he took a break. Some time later he started a joint account with Bamboo (can't remember the name but now is called Team K-Type) which entirely focused on furry art, later on they started to post normal fats (mainly blobs, which Bamboo had stopped posting on Twitter). Eventually Bamboo started to draw Kiari again (old Foxfire OC) and he also started to post drawings made by Foxfire on his Patreon. Now Foxfire has his own account again (Yeoubul). Currently he and Bamboo are working on a visual novel of Kiari, he also posts stuff on Bamboo's Patreon from time to time and shares a Discord server with him mainly about the visual novel project and his OCs. Also he has been on hiatus for months due to personal matters but at least hasn't deleted anything And regarding the "why?????" question, I think all the flip-flopping is all about general insecurities as an artist. Back when he was Toroboro he changed his style every few months and I believe he deleted most, if not all of his old art so he seems like the type that doesn't want to see his old work at all
>>229788 Well that means he's still alive. Only pro tho out of the cons.
>>229579 Generally speaking I've had good results by using the tag system for searching instead of plain text. So in your case I'd search #reimu #bbw #weightgain or some similar combination and it'll usually come out a bit better, especially if I load the search with different weight gain tags.
>both nimo and fusa have started posting on bluesky finally, a reason to lurk more on there. >>230004 >Bamboo-Ale He still owes me money for some stickers and a print that he never fulfilled before eventually partnering with YNE. Man has been silent on his discord for months.
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It's been over a year since he vanished. Really miss this nigga.
>>230004 If you want a rundown of Bamboo, I'll give it a crack: He came into the community already showing a lot of skill and prowess with fats, but also drawing in general so a lot of people expected great things from him. He carried on, built up his name, and settled very nicely in the community. His humor and personality were a mixture of dry/ironic/aloof and he went on to make some art posts that memed on other artists who were somewhat maligned in the community as well as making statements on the community as a whole. Some people thought it was the funniest shit ever; others thought it made him come off as a pretentious asshole. He was also one of four artist who posted that stupid "Who Shot Hannibal" copypasta that further made it seem like he was distancing himself from his fans and peers. Things went on and he eventually befriended FoxFire/Toroboro. Around this time, the both of them dialed back on big girls and became more ass-focused. A number of people saw this as the both of them trying to distance from the fetish community and appeal to the "thicc" crowd. FoxFire eventually deleted (again) before his art started to spring up on Bamboo's Patreon, where the both of them started drawing huge girls (again), namely Fox's OC Kiari. They later made a joint twitter account that posted huge girls and furry stuff from the both of them. Nowadays it seems like Bamboo draws FoxFire's OCs 90% of the time, compared to when he used to draw a large variety of characters and shapes. While I do enjoy some of the Kiari stuff, things tend to get very same-y and I feel like some of his fanbase has lost interest. >>230017 >I think all the flip-flopping is all about general insecurities as an artist. More or less. I think a number of artists aspire for greater things or want to be known for more than just smut, so they want to excise themselves from the community, only to end up crawling back because they miss the attention, they don't have the skills to shine with normie art, they miss drawing porn, or some mixture of the three. I can understand the feeling of "I want to do more" but I wish more artists learned how to take a break/pause their Patreons or exit gracefully instead of deleting everything and going "Goodbye forever (for real this time((I mean it I'm not coming back)))" only to spring up with a fresh new account a few months later. >Back when he was Toroboro he changed his style every few months The Disney Princess phase was the weirdest...
>>229563 >all these retards seething that everyone is actually packing up and leaving twitter Lol, where's all that bravado you jackasses had a few weeks ago? How it was all talk and no one was actually going to leave? >>229750 >Musk stitching his dying website to an outright dead website Like dropping an anchor on a hole ridden boat, masterful gambit sir.
>>230057 I guess you could say you Missthatman.
The update didn't actually change anything. You can still opt out of Grok according to the TOS and you can still opt out of it via the menu. Everybody who moved to bsky ironically just opened up their artwork to easier scraping.
>>230254 >implying twitter had any measures against scraping whatsoever brother
>>230254 Not entirely sure about what the ToS says but what does Twitter have against scraping that Bluesky doesn't? Also why do you guys keep crying about people not wanting to stay on Elon's bot swamp?
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>>230097 >>230290 Bluesky isn't exactly a site that feels like an improvement over twitter. It's essentially facebook for lib retards instead of maga retards. It's filled with fake/toxic positivity. Let's not even go over image compresion being crap and that Bluesky distributes any piece of artwork to sell for offerings. So any artist that willingly uses this app is screwing themselves. But they don't care because they would rather shit on elon and twitter than think critically. God 2016 and post covid just brung out the worst in people.
>>230298 >Muh Elon, muh Trump, muh 2016 Once again I have no idea why any of you are trying to cape for Twitter when literally everyone here hated it not so long ago. Mind you japanese artists are moving away too so it's not just about american politics, the site simply sucks ass
>>230298 >It's filled with fake/toxic positivity. This is probably the saddest way you could have told on yourself, bruh.
>>230304 It's less about caping for Twitter, it's the fact that BlueSky is all the same issues and doesn't have any non-political reason to switch. And even if Twitter dies tomorrow and forces everyone to move, you lose the one benefit of BS -- the filtered community. People like us literally cannot move there without ruining the experience for everyone else. It very much is just "my clique is better than your clique" finger-wagging, else people would have been talking about using stuff like Mastodon, Misskey.io, Fediverse, or any other Twitter clone.
>>230306 Yeah everyone complaining that the site is a hugbox and 'too reddit' is just an overall extension of the fact most the site's early userbase was made up of techies. This is already changing. Some of the end-user controls to mitigate 'toxic' forms of engagement are just more explicit now than they were on twitter. For instance: instead of blocking someone to limit the visibility of your post they're quoting to dunk on, you can just unlink the quoted tweet yourself. It's really not that big of a deal. I'm seeing more pushback against the people encouraging to over-familiarize ourselves with the content filters too; best to turn them all off.
>>230254 It's kind of hilarious that literally every month thousands of people independently rediscover that the TOS of most social media websites has the exact same "we reserve the right to redistribute and modify the content you upload to our platform" clause and instantly go into a "AIEEEEE THEY'RE TRAINING AI ON US AAAAAAAHHH" tizzy. There's also no guarantee that Bluesky won't do the same thing- after all, once all their venture capital funds run out, they'll have to start finding ways to make money eventually by selling user data. If the service is free, you're the product
God why do you all care about which poxy sites artists use? You all sound like bitter ex's. It's just weird.
>Open Twitter >Several new followers >They're are all bots >Get new comments on the drawing I posted yesterday >Some of them were made by bots, some are porn are others are crypto >Look at the likes >Again, more bots Yeah I wonder why people want to leave
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>>229705 Zoomers desperately trying to make sure they don't fap to a drawing/3D model of a fictional character that could potentially be under 18 years old is both sad and hilarious.
>>230361 >Their choice of host dictates your experience. Are you the kind of person who would sign up for FurAffinity to get around their R18+ blocker? >Sites have different image quality and upload limits. Would you want an animation to be a .gif or .webm? >Instead of taking the effort to post on multiple sites, artists pick only one and delete the other account out of spite. >Different sites have different rules. You can't get uncensored missionary sex picks on DeviantArt. >Every site wants your data. The more you spread yourself, the more you become known. Sort of important to people on the anonymous image board. There's a lot of reasons to care about which site artists use. Especially when those artists are trying to convince you and the rest of their audience to give up on a site for another. >>230375 >I callout people on pedoish stuff earth's mightiest hero. truly a svaior of children.
>>230375 Call him Elmo the way he projecting.
>>230375 Meh, I'll be whacking to whatever fictional character my dick tells me to till the cows come home, but I understand why zoomers are so hyper-puritan when you consider how they've grown up surrounded by hypersexualised content and so many of them have been exposed to online grooming or know someone who has. They never got the chance to be kids on the internet like we did, and older people find it hard to appreciate the difference between looking for porn on the internet and being surrounded by it.
>>230361 If they were multi-platforming it'd be one thing, but it's because a number of them are saying they're going to delete all their posts/accounts or they'll retaliate by only tossing up heavily filtered shit as opposed to the full piece. We've been through this song and dance so many times at this point and it's getting annoying. It's the same as when an artist goes "Boohoo I"m going to delete, good bye" and they come back a month later. It's also the fact that so many people are misguided because they misunderstood the situation or invented it entirely in their heads. They also fail to realize that AI scraping is such a ubiquitous problem that jumping from one flaming dumpster into another one isn't going to solve anything. It's not very fun to watch people panic and fret over something that's akin to a force of nature. >>230367 I don't think this is a twitter-exclusive problem. Whenever I get anything that looks like a bot I just block it. If I get tagged in bullshit giveaways/crypto scams I block and then report the account. The latter used to happen a lot but I haven't seen one in months. >>230375 "AYO BRO THE OFFICIAL BOOK SAYS SHE'S 17 DID YOU DRAWED HER OLDER OR NOT I'M EDGING SO HARD RIGHT NOW FR FR PLEASE RESPOND" >>230402 >but I understand why zoomers are so hyper-puritan when you consider how they've grown up surrounded by hypersexualised content It's super weird to me. When two highschoolers of different ages dated you didn't think much of it in the past, but nowadays if one is 18 and the other is 16 people want to flip their lids. I kind of get it but when I look at that type of situation I just think "Oh it's just two dumb kids dating in the same school". It's like the pendulum is swinging to both extremes at the same time. On one end you have children being exposed to more things of a hyper sexual nature at younger and younger ages, but on the other end you have 15 year olds wanting to lecture people on CP or putting "I'M 15, NO PEDOS" in their bio. It's like they're being scared straight and having fear pounded into their head as opposed to being taught good online safety. Maybe I'm not looking at this the right way or can't quite articulate how I feel, but something just feels really "off" about everything lately...
>>230375 They do know that if they actually believe this, they're still viewing it, right?
>>230409 This is all strange about zoomers. When I was they age we all was an edgy fuckers on internet.
>>230409 >It's like they're being scared straight and having fear pounded into their head as opposed to being taught good online safety. >Maybe I'm not looking at this the right way or can't quite articulate how I feel, but something just feels really "off" about everything lately... In my opinion it's an orgnaic attitude, not something that's been forced onto them. I think a whole lot of the whole antigroomer zealotry is just young people trying to gatekeep girls their age so they can keep zoomer pussy to themselves, but the general diastase towards any kind of sexualisation of "minors" is authentic and manifests in a lot of different ways, whether it's autism like in that screencap or the whole proship/antiship nonsense you see on twitter. >>230441 >When I was they age we all was an edgy fuckers on internet. And now people our age will ban you for "toxicity" for calling someone a retard in team chat, will dox you for wrongthink if (zoomers nearly always link their accounts to the themselves irl in someway so this is also their fault) and generally create a culture where being an edgy fucker for shits and gigs isn't possible outside of a few dark corners of the internet. Millennials became faggots and turned the internet into a place for fags.
>>230441 I still identify as an attack helicopter.
>>230525 How lovely that you feel safe to come out on such a notoriously bigoted platform. Nature is healing, and I expect this place to be better
>>230580 May G*d bless the trigger-happy censors keeping overgrown toddlers from reading mean words in a borderline shock site.
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>>230441 You do gotta remember you grew up in a post-9/11 world. Back-to-back, you got to witness a "death of innocence" moment with the terrorist attacks and watching "the Establishment" blatantly lie to you (and even itself, going by Bush's own accounts). People had zero trust in anything and wanted to see it either change or burn. It is easy to describe the 00's as a very punk era for everyone as there was a lot to complain about and not a lot of interbreeding between groups, so people felt very isolated and even more emboldened to lash out. Many zoomers on the other hand basically grew up on the opposite. "Trust the state", "the laws protect you", "punk people are bad people". Whether this is the consequences of post-PATRIOT Act implementation and its resulting backlash, COVID "proving" the establishment works or at least is needed, how much the Obama-era of global politics was about dressing up language and social justice, or just them being different, they didn't grow up on being edgy motherfuckers on the internet. They have no need to. What is there to rebel against? What systems do they not like and want burn? You can't even fall back on Something Awful-esque "The internet is for idiots" because of how essential it is to everyone's lives (and admitting you are an idiot is no bueno). They don't really have an enemy but the people that came before them, regardless if they are the ones responsible for living in a relatively safer net.
>>230308 >BlueSky is all the same issues BlueSky doesn't have a nonfunctioning block feature that was actively gutted because the manchild who owned the site craves attention above all else. BlueSky doesn't have a subscription feature that encourages an entire economy of ragebait and spam. Bluesky doesn't give said subscribers priority over everyone else, further emboldening said spam economy. Bluesky doesn't have a trending bar that's forced on you. Bluesky doesn't have an AI program shoehorned into it. Bluesky isn't run by an absolute moron that does his hardest to tank any sense of goodwill possible. You'd have to be an idiot to imply that Twitter and BlueSky are remotely the same. Twitter is barely even functional at this point, there's zero redeeming qualities to it.
>>230625 Even if I were to take all your issues as valid, that's not what I am talking about. Twitter is an awful concept of a social media site, and any clone of it is replicating the same fundamental design issues. Threading SMS posts into a web of nonsense was always a terrible idea and Twitter got away with it for being the first, not because it was ever a good idea. The only social media website with an even less sensible concept is Reddit. Even if Xitter is a cesspool that deserves to die...for what reason would I ever want an exact replica to take its place?
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It begins...
>>230646 Wherever the sane people go, the trolls try to follow, glad we've been sticking it to them and not actually feeding them, starving them of the engagement they so desperately need
>>230644 If it weren't for Twitter I'd still be getting the news through RSS feeds like it's the mid 2000s. Microblogs and Imageboards are the only forms of Web 2.0 "social media" that are still worth emulating (or otherwise building upon). Everything else has just become a vehicle for ad tech.
>>230625 >Bluesky doesn't give said subscribers priority over everyone else, further emboldening said spam economy. This has been the most frustrating thing to me—much more than the recent block function changes. Bluechecks get priority in the replies and the replies are automatically sorted by 'Most relevant'—as if I want to see what a celebrity (or someone who's paying to look like one) thinks. They are the lowest quality posters on the website and always have been. At least with Bluesky it would seem they are sticking with the idea of their verification 'system' being domain-as-handles and nothing more (for now).
>>230653 >newcomers browbeating the old users to conform to how they think Bluesky should be or how it was going to be >old users reporting newcomers for harassing them because above >mass concentration of people who wanted to flee "the enemy" start eating their own when they realize not all beliefs line up 100% of the time >normal people that got caught up in the exodus are catching strays because of varied beliefs and opinions >mass exodus of artists are getting their NSFW reported >mass exodus of artists are getting their NSFW reported as CSAM because the character is canonically young or just looks young >human nature dictates that we don't always get along with one another >... >there's probably some trolls too Yeah it's just trolls and nothing else.
>>230660 >Actually went through the effort to write this shit unironically Consider therapy
>>230684 They kicked me out of magnet therapy. :(
>>230696 Don't worry anon, me and everybody else on this site will always be there for you. Now, how are you feeling?
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>>230698 I'm so tired bros...
>>230375 People like this post here and I am supposed to treat these "people" "nicely" or whatever the expats try to whine about in various threads. The deviantart/tumblr exodus to here, Twitter, etc., was a huge mistake we at large will never recover from.
This might be random but why is so much of this fetish so so sterile. there's some dark stuff here and there. but why do so many fetish artists or writers go through every mental hoop and logic for the end of what their doing to be "I'm fat and happy". not asking for only super morbid stuff. but even after going through things they don't like or describing their dislike or hatred at the end it's just fat and happy and accepting. why not some denial or dislike or things like that?
This might be random but, why do fetish artists or writers end all of their stuff with "i'm fat and happy". Even after having the characters sad, angry or etc. they all come to the end to just be happy and accepting. Sometimes it even feels like the artist/writer jumped through hoops in logic just for it to end on a happy note. I'm not asking for only super dark stuff or anything. But some denial, dislike or something other than just "yeah I'm fat and can't do much but I'm happy". Just seems kinda boring
Thought my first one didn't send. My bad
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Why are so many faggots acting like Bluesky is the Old Twitter with all the positivity? > open up bluesky logged out + private browsing > new brooklyn dad tweet > random eyecatching pictures like the night sky or fucking mushrooms (that would otherwise be suspect for botspam on twitter) > jack hopkins > lincoln project > john collins > ron filipkowski > more photograph botposts > random activist saying how "chill bluesky is" > george conway > adam kinzinger > more aesthetic slop > Finally! A regular-ass tweet pertaining to Arcane! > marc "God's Chosen Party" elias > tweets trying to mimic 2000s/early 2010s twitter That site is doomed. Keep faking your positivity, libtards. Retards like ChunkerChunks nuking their Twitter profiles are gimping any and all following they might've had. At least Regular Brick had the foresight to just stop posting on Twitter.
>>230726 Because for most people depressing shit just isent hot. It's a niche.
>>230731 This whole thing just made me realize there were a lot of these artists that craved to be back on that shithole called tumblr and never really stopped. Which frankly, I wish tumblr never killed itself. It really was a great floodgate for these morons because you never took them seriously cause “tumblr”. Sometime during the migration to Twitter we suddenly started thinking they should be listened to for some reason.
>>230657 >If it weren't for Twitter I'd still be getting the news through RSS feeds like it's the mid 2000s. You say that like it's a bad thing! >Microblogs and Imageboards are the only forms of Web 2.0 "social media" that are still worth emulating (or otherwise building upon) But Twitter and its clones suck as microblogs. Weak customization, image quality crunch, text limits, the stupid thread system that makes it nigh-impossible to track a consistent conversation. If you go on someone's profile, you can't even see if they are in the middle of a conversation! Why is the blogging software designed to not let me see me blogging?? >>230731 To be fair, they don't want "Old Twitter". They want pre-Musk Twitter. The positivity is more a bonus that even they have to admit cannot last.
>>230739 Ironic then considering the fetish in general. As i said tho it's not specifically only depressing things either. It's the absence of anything that's not 100% acceptance and love from every single source in whatever work the artists/writer makes.
>>230749 It's all a fantasy and health issues is a Content Warning anyhow. They make it for themselves first, edgelords second. Take that in regards to how much love they get in a day for yourself.
>>230753 Again I'm not talking only depressing stuff. I'm not some edge lord trying to see some gruesome stuff or death or health issues exclusively or anything. I'm wondering about the lack of denial or dislike and thugs of such as well.
>>230753 I can only speak for myself but the appeal for me is less "fat" exactly and more the proportions. I find the girls attractive regardless of their weight but them being huge can be a fun scenario. I'm totally aware of the negative aspects in reality and wouldn't wish that on anyone, it's more a fantasy idea if anything. >>230754 You mean just general complaining about what happened or pretending everything's not out of hand? That stuff's fine. I see it from time to time but I haven't seen any artists focus on it. You can probably break the fetish up into different camps since it's clear not everyone's drawn to it for the same reasons
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>>230754 Is it really worth wondering? Again, it is about indulging in themselves and the fantasy. If you really want to break it down like that, it is just mostly the desire for escapism. If there is a message, it just the same progressive media culture of 'accepting yourself and everything' that is still popular and needed at points. At WORST, its Health At Any Size posturing but even then you have to be our degree of brainrotten to worry about that. Most fetish places are built by and for that socially-liberal kind of person. Not to a "Coffee Shop AU" degree, but definitely leaning towards such cause that is the fantasy they want to live in. A serious/semi-serious story that ends in on a kind-of-sour note that isn't written for themselves is a very niche concept. It really isn't a puzzle worth expending brain power solving. You don't have to "let them be happy", there's plenty of more bittersweet stories around. But you can't be shocked that there are a lot of people that glaze over the obvious bad stuff of obesity. >>230758 There is a bit of a shame that the nature of writing means you can't really just make it about the proportions. It always has to be tangible in your setting and that usual means its an inconvenience. That's hot in its own right but it does mean you have to dive deeper into the raw fat appreciation well than just "big belly gud".
>>230758 Yeah things like that. Like the inconveniences, the exhaustion and such
>>230759 I don't really have an issue with that or anything. I can enjoy this fetish with or without those things. I was mostly wondering. And I guess it was a worthless question in general since if they like it they'll go about it like you said with the whole "everything and everyone is good no matter what even if extremely obese" plus the fetish already has a bad reputation too so. As I said in my reply above this I think. It's also just lack of anything other than positivity. Not necessarily hate but just how it's always like and if there's dislike then they learn to love it or something. But as you mentioned it's pointless and not really worth thinking about. So apologies for the waste of time and thread space.
>>230759 Unrelated but RounderSofter has been in the game since 2008 IIRC, and he still is consistent with his work. Another person I could think of, in that same vein, is probably Kawaiidebu. But hey, that's just my opinion.
>>230759 >If there is a message, it just the same progressive media culture of 'accepting yourself and everything' that is still popular and needed at points. At WORST, its Health At Any Size posturing but even then you have to be our degree of brainrotten to worry about that. Most fetish places are built by and for that socially-liberal kind of person I was going to argue with you about that but I'm probably letting political brainrot get to my head reacting to the words "progressive" and "socially-liberal" and thinking the buzzwords first. I can see the argument you're making though

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