>>225065 i'd like to see if some artists actually leave, fapolantern said he would at the end of the month so let's wait and see if that's true

>>225075 He'll be back once he realizes he's not getting nearly as much commission work.

>>225075 No way in hell this fucking coward will actually leave, he said it multiple times and it hasn't happened yet

>>225075 I hope he leaves he and his $200 commissions!

>>225065 >the removal of AI opt-out this looks like the point of contention for most people, and I can't say I blame them. There's something uniquely awful about involuntarily helping build the machines that may end up putting you out of business

>>225065 >Elon Musk makes one of many retarded decisions he's made in his life as a billionaire >Artists sperg out like mad and decide to hop onto a literal nobody platform that'll likely go the way of Cohost within a year or less >According to an e621 mod, Bluesky compresses the images much worse than Xwitter, causing them to push posters to use Bluesky as a last resort if they can't find any other links for sauce fucking retards lol

Why are so many here mad about artists moving to Bluesky anyway? People fucking hated artists using Twitter before as their go-to platform and Twitter has gotten absolutely worse post-Musk, pretty much the only thing it has is having more artists on the platform, otherwise I'd have stopped using long ago

>>225098 They're either your average reactionary idiots or Musk fanboys, no one fucking liked Twitter even before he took over lmao

>>225098 Twitter is bad as an art platform, yes, but it's chief advantage is that it has lots of people who use it and it has relatively lax porn policies, meaning it's great for people who just want to get a lot of their eyes on their work (and later convert them into future patreon subscribers or commissioners) Bluesky has all the problems that Twitter has for art (arguably worse problems because of image compression) but doesn't even have a userbase to justify posting on there

>>225098 Honestly it shouldn’t really matter. What really grinds my gears is artists posting to twitter/bluesky/tumblr exclusively and not having a separate archive just for their art. I hate having to sort through all of their irrelevant posts to find their fat art. It’s really not that hard to compile your posts on deviantart or pixiv

>>225098 >People fucking hated artists using Twitter Again, these accounts do not serve as your personal wank archive. Artists flocked to Twitter because the microblog format makes it easy to go viral and attract commissioners, all the while getting news at a faster pace than legacy media. >>225105 Blusky's AT Protocol looked promising the last time I looked into it. I hope it at least encourages artists to buy domains they can use with their handles.

You know, we have a general discussion board for a reason

>>225079 This. He can huff and puff all he want, when he realize his only real motivator in every piece of artwork he does is drastically decreased, he’ll realize he doesn’t nearly as much sway he thinks he does. You sleep in the bed you made.

>>225098 Because Bluesky's image compression is awful for art. How hard can it be to just upload shit to Deviantart?

>>225075 Why is he being such an asshole about it? I checked replies on multiple tweets and even looked for mentions and I only found a handful of tweets that basically amounted to "don't delete right away in case things change" or "delete posts but lock the account so someone doesn't impersonate you." Unless he's getting inundated with DMs or has a Discord server or something I don't understand where all this aggression is coming from.

>>225198 People know he's deleted his accounts many times over years often for superfluous reasons and now that he actually has a good reason to he's annoyed that people care.

>>225065 Haven’t we been through this before? Fags hype up leaving twitter for some shitty alternative site realize no one’s using it and end up quietly coming back to Twitter?

At least the one-two punch of making blocks practically useless and forcing opt-ins to AI grabbing has motivated a decent amount of people to either fully commit in migrating, or are at least making a better attempt to be a presence there. It's the most activity Bluesky's had in forever and who knows, it might actually convince some artists to stay for once. There's only so many second chances a website can have, right? I'd rather people moved to Itaku though! It's way more generous with high resolution images (Bluesky's image compression might be worse than Twitter's) and has proper gallery/folder features and tagging for posts, it'd be a better ART site for POSTING ART than a social media feed site ever would... SolitaryScribbles is the only one that seems to champion such a concept though, and that's a shame because his toony style and reputation for drawing underage gals from cartoons means his message likely hasn't really had any real reach on Twitter.

>>225211 I rather prefer Deviantart over itaku, since it actually has the most features and lot of tools to help other artists out also that the website is good at getting your art out there without needing to rely on others retweeting it like on xitter. But people being too retarded and hating the site for the most dumb reasons.

>>225094 It's the case of every site. EVERYONE is using your data for something. BlueSky has the same content aggregation and usage clause as Xitter, it just that because xAI and Grok are a thing they have to make it clear that is what your data is being used for. Since they are weirdly attached parts of the site and how puzzling it would be to opt-out (since Retweeting makes you and the retweeter share the content, what happens if there is a conflict?), it is not something reasonable you can really be mad. And no, nothing was "removed", there was no AI opt-out on X to begin with. It was only plausible deniability that your work may or may not have been scraped, which doesn't hold up legally. >>225098 On top of the other reasons people have mentioned... It's just Twitter again. If you aren't an artist, it is doing nothing but Twitter again, now with less clout and worse features. Less video uploading, less image quality, less people to talk to. You get your own domain but unlike Tumblr you don't have your own Do-What-You-Want website blog with it. It's why most fediverse or Mastodon instances don't pan out, it is just the common techbro power of reinventing the same thing. Just like "raw water", "cloud-connected water bottles", "Juicero", "WeWork", or "the Ouya", it offers nothing the average person actually would want to take the effort to switch over. People can smell the obvious impulse-driven "the grass is greener" effect going on with most Xitter Exiles and those pretending it is anything different are unintentional snake-oil salesmen, putting it lightly. An artist should have a wide network, PostyBirb really is a godsend for 'em. But also...fuck, bro, for as much as people like to think they are above techbro talking points, they sure are the same hucksters. That's why it is infuriating, especially after this being the 5th time they said they were leaving (gotta love the artist reblogging their year-old post about the last time they said they were leaving).

>>225211 >making blocks practically useless Any schizo who gets blocked by someone but wants to see that person's posts could just make a burner account in 5 minutes under the previous system. Although it's functionally no different from a mute now (and probably could still get reverted if any app store hosts notice it breaks their policy) it's kind of a nothing change >and forcing opt-ins to AI grabbing Ironically because Bluesky allows you to view posts without logging in it's more susceptible to regular web scraping other AI models can do than X is, which only feeds its data to Grok

>>225223 >hating the site for the most dumb reasons >Deviantart Not knowing when something you posted could end up taken down, is a pretty good reason. Everyone who's been around long enough also has years of massive fuck ups and annoyances that DA dragged its feet on, swaying their opinion of the site even under new owners. >>225234 >it's functionally no different from a mute now That's it?! They're pissed they can't fully cut someone out? I thought Elon completely took the ability to block someone out, but they're just pissed that they can't block someone and keep talking shit about the person, or talking spouting whatever bullshit they were getting called out over.

>>225234 >Any schizo who gets blocked by someone but wants to see that person's posts could just make a burner account in 5 minutes under the previous system. Since the Musk buyout allowed Twitter to be overrun with AI porn bots, people have found their followers list getting inflated for no good reason at all. Until recently, you just learned to go on blocking sprees when that happens it's just an evolution of the popular reaction to "FirstName BunchOfNumbers" >Ironically because Bluesky allows you to view posts without logging in it's more susceptible to regular web scraping other AI models They also give you the option to limit that, which is nice. One thing I've noticed a lot with the recent exodus to Bluesky are viral skeets informing users to actually pay attention to their user settings, which isn't something I normally saw in the 10+ years I've been on twitter. I'm sure this kind of culture is also reflected in mastodon instances, but whatever. >>225238 >They're pissed they can't fully cut someone out? Anon, people don't just block people to "keep talking shit about a person"—be serious.

>grr we're gonna move over to pillowfort cause DA/tumblr (post the initial NSFW ban) sucks! >pillowfort is deader than dead >grr we're gonna move over to itaku! >some people maintain galleries there but it's still not a hotspot >omg bluesky is open please come over >1k at most followers >grr twitter bad (again) we're DEFINITELY gonna move over to bluesky now >??? Sure you'll get some people switching over to follow you but considering how large and ubiquitous Twitter is with social media you'd be a fool to throw that avenue away for a smaller, more often than not a very small, audience. Also artists whining about the AI thing are seriously naive if they don't think their images haven't been scraped by people/companies for their AI models at this point. The genie is out of the bottle, there's no going back to undo that now.

>>225245 As the schizo, I am tired of artists demanding money to pay their car note. Even ignoring the logistics, people would have to pay $40 to access Patreon plus another $80 for commissions. People want to watch Yellowstone,Tulsa King, Netflix which are all cheaper

>>225241 Bluesky will never succeed. It can't replicate the insanity of the internet. Ironically, getting rid of schizos allowed grifters to take over.

>>225241 >They also give you the option to limit that Note that the setting itself tells you that only the Bluesky client will hide its data from logged-in users and that other apps need not honor that request. On top of that, by nature of the platform being decentralized all the posts need to be public (and thus vulnerable to scraping) by design.

>>225234 >Any schizo who gets blocked by someone but wants to see that person's posts could just make a burner account in 5 minutes You don't even need that, as long as the account isn't marked sensitive, you can just use Incognito Mode. Blocks never really stopped anyone from looking at your account. >>225241 >. Until recently, you just learned to go on blocking sprees when that happens it's just an evolution of the popular reaction to "FirstName BunchOfNumbers" Which you still can do. Porn Bots and the like wasn't going to engage with you directly, you did because they were annoying and deserved the report + block. If you are really scared about a robot looking at your account, you were already fucked well before you hit the button. >Anon, people don't just block people to "keep talking shit about a person"—be serious. Everything you use a block for still works. They can't interact with your posts and you don't know how they feel about anything. The only change is that public profiles are still public to the blocked party. If they wanted a screenshot to make fun of you for, they always had a way, it is just easier. It's why it's not a good change (even if the idea of locking down how people can look at your public profile is screwy for a social media platform to begin with), just not a change worth complaining about. It's a virtually cosmetic deal. Meaning the only people that would complain are those that hate being looked at by someone they don't like.

>>225251 Also find it curious (funny, even) that DMs are centralized until they somehow roll out their own E2EE solution on protocol. Makes me wonder why they didn't just go with Matrix (despite acknowledging it in their newsletter earlier this year).

>>225245 This is sadly accurate. I actually kinda want Blusky to succeed, but I already know how these people function. I'll give it a week before they go from "omg this website is soooo much better than twitter who cares that i have less followers i just like to make art!" to having clout withdraws and going back to Twitter with their tail between their legs. FFS, Elon could update the ToS to say that he personally owned the intellectual property of everyone's OCs, and these motherfuckers would get huffy for a little bit and then go right back to posting as if nothing happened. They could make it so that every time they post someone came to their house and physically kicked them in the face, and they still wouldn't leave. The worst part is that Twitter, as a platform, has NEVER been a good platform for viewing art, even under the old management. (Who, by the way, is the exact same kind of silicon valley shithead that Elon is.) But because these people get attention and there is a number next to their name that goes up so that doesn't matter. Oh, and if Bluesky does, somehow, against all odds, get bigger than Twitter what do you think is gonna happen? Will the owners be benevolent and make the platform better? Or will they do what literally every other social media platform ever does and start enshittifying? Do they really think the people running Bluesky aren't the exact same kind of valley vultures who ruined the rest of the internet?

>>225198 >Leaves twitter because AI bad >Less followers overall >Massive commission drought >Likely isn't making much from his online store >Ignoring the possibility that Bluesky and other twitter alternatives wouldn't soon be implementing AI in the websites as well Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he came crawling back to twitter under the pretense of him needing money and eventually doing the same thing again whenever the next big online mass hysteria comes along. His art is good, but god he'd be incredibly insufferable to meet if the way he acts online is how he really is

>>225255 >Meaning the only people that would complain are those that hate being looked at by someone they don't like. I'd say that's a legitimate concern? You don't have to be a lolcow to want relatively strong measures that mitigate the chances of online harassment, or other unpleasant exchanges that you'd rather not have to begin with. That's what a block function should do. Not everyone is going to out of their way to make multiple accounts just to keep tabs on someone. I've stumbled across users I've never interacted with in my entire life who've blocked me, and that's fine. If they don't wanna be compelled to see my posts—and if they don't want me to see theirs, then they should at least ostensibly have the power not to. Never mind I think this is ultimately a reflection of the shifting advertising landscape on the site as well. Ads have increasingly become unblockable, instead giving users the option to the say, "I don't like this ad" like it's fucking LinkedIn or something. The manner and pace in which ads load now is so disorienting too. It feels like we're a few steps away from that one Sony patent people were joking about years ago.

Hey mods, why did you delete my statement on pointing out the insanity of the BetterWithSalt thread? You're deleting the wrong stuff.

>>225492 To add to my statement, the thread was created today and it's already almost at 100. Good Lord. Did a breach happen somewhere on 4chan or from some message board?

>>225258 >Elon could update the ToS to say that he personally owned the intellectual property of everyone's OCs, and these motherfuckers would get huffy for a little bit and then go right back to posting as if nothing happened Already happened with DA. >Who, by the way, is the exact same kind of silicon valley shithead that Elon is Lets forget their one sided banning, their only real method to make money being by selling your information; you do realize they were protecting pedophiles right? And I mean actual diddlers. >valley vultures You do realize none of these sites make any money and were practically completely relying on investors back when the economy wasn't shit?

People said they were moving to The Hive. They came back to Twitter. People said they were moving to Threads. They came back to Twitter. People said they were moving to Mastodon. They came back to Twitter. People said they were moving to Pillowfort. They came back to Twitter. People said they were moving to Newgrounds. They came back to Twitter. People are saying they’re “Actually” moving to Bluesky? Yeah, sure bud. But F off with this half assed “All my pics are gonna be posted to Bluesky, but I’ll still post to twitter anyway but tease y’all to follow my Bluesky teehee”. F off. I don’t care how many times I hear “Twitter is actually dying for real this time!” I’m not going on Bluesky!!!!!!!!!

>Learn that Cakecatboymechhoarder is 26 >She started drawing lewds on deviant art in 2013 >Do the math >mfw she really IS the fat-fetish Nyanners Cowzers, Cakefeeder and Metalforever have some massive explaining to do. And no bitch, you didn’t do it “just for the money”. Half the loli/shota shit you drew weren’t commissions. The lengths she goes for historical revisionism, what with creating an entirely new website just cos she wanted to change her "uncomfy" name and quietly deleting the shota folder of her favourites list that was up for years, before ultimately shoving her DA into the void and sweep that all under the rug. Shotacon’s remorse turned her non-binary 😭

>>225729 Exactly. And I stop fallow her after she strlart to draw endless OCs. OCs sucks. As any social chameleon she did blm acab posts or something like it before. Seriously, fuck spineless people like Nyanners. I don't belive they are have any thought of they own. And separating somehow good and bad NSFW is a truly moronic shit, is it some sort of religion which tell you how exactly you need to fap? It is nsfw and sfw, nothing in between.

>>225729 >Historical revisionism You mean learning new things and changing your opinions accordingly?

>>225740 You act like she's changed when she clearly hasn't. Her vtuber model is still clearly a shota and she still very much makes content that would align with shota stuff, she just doesn't call it that cuz she'd be eaten alive.

>>225238 I've never had my stuff taken down on DA for "no reason", the only ones who complain about their stuff taken down on DA is people who break the rules and goes "how did it happen, I don't get it" and then proceeds to sperg. Only gotten one commissioned artwork taken down, due to character being 15 years old, so I find that reason understandable since it's a part of the rules. I've been there for 15 years, don't break the rules, no problem.

>>225729 I mean, it’s not uncommon for a lot of these fetish artists to have begun when they were teenagers, not that I condone minors drawing this stuff, but chances are you’re favorite fetish artist is some autistic fuck who started uploading fat porn when they were in their teens. But wasn’t 2013 also around the time she claimed she was married to Cakefeeder? I’m just surprised she’s really that young

>>225820 CARTOON FAT PORN, just to reiterate

>>225820 It wasn't a claim, they were 100% married. They got divorced recently though because she wanted to fuck his best friend instead

Why the FUCK is the BWS thread so fucked up lately? At this point, I don't even want to look in there and lose more brain cells.

>>225760 DA is unfortunately filled with a lot of snitches who really think they are helping, but a lot of artists really are super dumb. You can't really be surprised over your Sonic the Hedgehog/Persona/My Hero Academia/Pokemon humans/Gushing Over Magical Girls/Splatoon/underaged OC porn gets reported, yet time and time again I see them get shocked, SHOCKED that the inevitable hits them like a truck. "My character is aged up!" has not once worked against DA mods and I do not know why they think they can outplay the system. I have nothing against underaged art and I think DA is a cesspit but that's the site culture you all cultivated for DECADES now. You all live in an age of people Wiki-Snitching for fake girls' ages. You all are playing with fire, don't be surprised you get burnt. If you want to play the system, do it smarter; post previews of illicit content and forward people to OTHER SITES THAT ALLOW THE RESTRICTED CONTENT. >>225844 That comic been going for nearly 500 pages and all that's been accomplished is making all 3 of its main characters awful bitches. Only reason the Log Myu threads isn't nearly as toxic and braincell-killing is that Kip can and will get worse and it is just a matter of waiting.

>>225826 Ah so Feeder/Toast Tornado is a cuck? Color me surprised...

>>225846 I think you tagged the wrong guy.

>>225729 >Cowzers, Cakefeeder and Metalforever have some massive explaining to do. I know Cowzers is the current BF/whatever but what does Metal have to do with this? >>225740 >You mean learning new things and changing your opinions accordingly? Her statements sound less like genuine growth and more like she had to turn in a writing assignment on "how she grew as a person". I could absolutely believe she was in an abusive relationship and was coerced into doing/drawing things, but she also seemed to have a genuine interest in drawing shota, hence the OC. Hell, even after the disavowal and pivot to Vtubing, she still drew stuff that was basically just straight shota under a different label. Also, an important reminder that artists don't share everything, and that applies quadruple for artists that draw smut. >>225826 Wait THAT'S why they broke up? I thought it was because he was an abusive creep (allegedly, I don't know all the details). >>225844 I really wish people would learn not to take the bait, and that this place had the "hide reply/post" option. >>225846 BetterWithSalt thread, not Kip thread. The Kip thread has been pretty chill lately, albeit wordy.

>>225846 >2nd image This one is an example of why DA needs to give the chance to appeal so the artist can prove that their art is not breaking any rules.

>>225852 >>225853 >BetterWithSalt thread, not Kip thread. The Kip thread has been pretty chill lately, albeit wordy. Whoops, misread. Always mix 'em up thanks to Breakfast With Sister... Yeah, that seems...chaotic. What exactly is happening there? >>225854 I don't disagree but it is clear that DA follows their insane userbase on these issues. These aren't a case of algorithms being against them ala YouTube, it is the culture of snitching they uphold. It's like how people got sniped by the FurAffinity changes, you cannot have been surprised they went harder against underaged/cub content when their audience have been vehemently against it from the beginning. InkBunny didn't came out of nowhere. The more people get politically charged over non-issues like the age of Hatsune Miku, the less surprised they are allowed to be when they get slapped. >>225851 >woman is a whore >this is the man's fault, apparently man is being a dude online rough nowadays.

>>225853 >what does Metal have to do with this? Cake, Cowz and Metal had this "roleplay family" on fur-affinity, with her roleplaying as a furry loli daughter while Cowz was the daddy and Metal was the mommy. This is why I said "They got some explaining to do", because unless they also just so happened to be 15-17 during that time, then they otherwise totally groomed Cake, with her eventually dating her groomer. The cuckage for Cakefeeder/"whatever his later name is cos i don't remember" runs even deeper because all this NSFW roleplay shit was happening while the two of them were "married". Cake essentially ditched him for her roleplay buddy. I'll admit that mayyyybe she's isn't 26 and might be older and I just don't understand the context of the cake decoration pic, but even if all that shit was legal and she was actually in a marriage, cucking your husband for your "roleplay daddy" is so sad,

>>225855 Eh, it happens to us all. But at the same time, I've seen calmer from the constant LucyGuy bullshit. Even WelrodGuy pokes fun at the thread and shows his "face" from time to time. The whole thing really kicked off (and I don't know how) with that Christmas piece.

>>225853 They broke up pretty quietly, then she started fucking their best friend and a little after that he transitioned. I highly doubt he was abusive because you know if he was cake would use it to add another label to herself to excuse her shitty behavior.

>>225855 So you let your wife fuck other dudes? Because that’s literally the definition of being a cuck. Catboymech is a whore, a hypocrite and a dumb troon incapable of taking real accountability for her actions, but I don’t have sympathy for simps. >>225856 Jesus what a bunch of weirdos

>>225867 Her being unfaithful =/= you "let her" fuck other dudes. While it makes him a cuckold by definition, that doesn't mean it was his fault or that you should hate him for it. Hell if >>225866 is correct, that means he isn't even a cuck, she's just a bitch that dumped him for another dude. It is all on catboymech. Dating is hard enough, you do not need to be judging people at how good you are at keeping disloyal furry schizo pussy on the lockdown in the fat fetish forum. Cuck is to -chan culture what incel is to Twitter culture, istg...

>>225855 >Whoops, misread. Always mix 'em up thanks to Breakfast With Sister... Fair enough, I've made that mistake multiple times myself. >Yeah, that seems...chaotic. What exactly is happening there? I'm not 100% sure to be honest... I know there was always bitching about LucyGuy and other frequent characters/commissioners, then people started schizo posting about Salt's OCs, some people started spamming shonen shit, then there were people trying to critique Salt's work but a lot of what I skimmed looked like autistic nitpicking. It feels like shitting up Salt threads is a meme at this point and people are leaning into it. >>225856 >Cake, Cowz and Metal had this "roleplay family" on fur-affinity ... okay this was a lot more than I was expecting. Some of this sounds vaguely familiar but I thought this was with her husband, hence me thinking her previous relationship may have been abusive. If she was doing this shit with Cowzers, her current partner, then that makes all the "loli/shota bad and I learned my lesson :(" sound even more like insincere bullshit and that's not even broaching the age/abuse angle of it all. (sidenote but I didn't know Metal was a furry and him being involved in this just make it even more wild) >>225867 >So you let your wife fuck other dudes? >-but I don’t have sympathy for simps. To quote >>225826: >They got divorced recently though because she wanted to fuck his best friend instead That doesn't sound like simping/being a cuck, that sounds like the marriage fell apart because she was cheating. I know the word "cuck" is a big funny meme at this point, but this should be an indictment of her character, not his.

>>225854 And this is never against the males. They can endlessly draw Deku X Bakugo smut or whatever and no one cares. Same on twitter. This is literally a fag mafia around the art circles. Once you do Miku or whatever they are going apeshit. I have a theory that this is a fags and ugly women who are obsessed with yaoi because they are can't see a woman even in a fictional relationship with a man, so they are selfinsert as a yaoi boi. So they both are control everything about censorship by combining they unhappy obsessions and a free time together. Because this is what I always see in the discord or other art circles once they are flock together to form a clique even around 2007.

>>225855 That's why I highlighted the ExtraBaggageClaim post, because the post timeskip girls in fe3h are all canonically 20+ years old.

>>225870 >some people started spamming shonen shit, then there were people trying to critique Salt's work but a lot of what I skimmed looked like autistic nitpicking. There were some critiques I thought were legit, it's how they were saying it that made it look like it was nitpicking.

>>225846 Biggest issue with "Aged up" characters is that Deviantart will just default to the most popular depiction of the character (or whatever shows up first on a google search) even if there are actual canon versions of the character as an adult. Spidergwen is a good example of this, there's lots of comic storylines where she's an adult but because spiderverse is the most popular version of the character the DA mods will delete the picture regardless.

>>225896 You should take your meds.

Looking forward to all the back peddling the fat artists are gonna do with the Double Cheeseburger girl from McDonalds.

>>225899 Spider-Gwen IS a young adult most of the times she appears ever since the original Spider-verse event in comics, her only teenage versions are Into the Spider-verse and Marvel Spider-man, they just recently have tried to de-age her in the pages to keep milking her ship with Miles from the movies by bringing another younger version of her with the TVA.

>>226225 That Spider-Gwen's still the same comic one as usual. The only difference is Miles is now 17 or 18ish so it's not as gross as when Bendis originally started it with the Kissing in a Tree arc back when Miles was 15. It's still gross but I think she died as a character years ago from the same issues that plague post-Ultimate Miles and humorously is reduced to an accessory for him.

>>226226 Also confusion about her age even existed before the Spider-Verse movies because people barely bothered to read her solo to know she was a NEET after high school. They just hear about her getting powers while in high school and assume she still must be a student. She was intended to vaguely be a splitting image of 616 Gwen when she died and tease shit with Peter but none of that manifested. The marketing during the All-New All-Different era also made the mistake of constantly grouping her in with the kids but they weirdly did that for a lot of new female characters at the time including Silk. Promo shit like Marvel Rising would also market her as a teenager. It sucks but I would be lying if I didn't admit I think it's funny the most successful attempt at bringing back Gwen and riding the wave of the TASM movies got derailed by that and Miles bullshit. Editorial's revisionist history on Gwen is one of the big albatrosses on the current status of mainline Spidey

>>225729 >Already at 15 she could draw well. Fucking how?

>>225729 God I fucking hate Americans, they're all a bunch of liars who will do anything to keep their public image clean

>>226241 Worse. She's Canadian.

>>226241 I don't know how anyone from an even remotely developed country can believe that only Americans are capable of lying for the sake of power/image.

>>226213 why?

>>226240 A lot of artists will never admit to it, but a lot of the "practice" or even "natural talent" mostly amounts to privilege. Art lessons, supplies, manuals and guides. Artists love to tell you that it is all nurture over nature, that anyone can be good and talent doesn't exist; and while that has plenty of truth or at least healthy platitudes, you DO need to acknowledge your origins. >>226247 America doesn't even have face culture as seen in China or South Korea. We really are not alone in being duplicitous assholes, that's just a human trait, unfortunately. Non-Americans seem to be getting really uppity, wonder what's going o-- >Election in less than 2 weeks fug.

>>226244 Shit...man, you shouldn't have said that. I'm gonna puke now

>>226255 The "talent doesn't exist" thing to me isn't about completely denying the existence of talent, but it's about not using the existence of talent as an excuse to not even bother trying. Talent absolutely exists in the way you describe it- it's a fact that some artists are just going to be younger, richer, or have more free time than others. But how well those artists do has absolutely zero bearing on how well you can do, and so long as you put in the work, you can at least improve at a steady rate. That rate may be slower than others, but unless you're in your 80s you have more than enough time to improve. Conversely, even "talented" people won't get very far without putting in the work themselves- no one comes out the womb intuitively understanding perspective or anatomy, no matter how privileged they may be.

>>225898 >There were some critiques I thought were legit Nah, those guys are pathetic fucking losers. None of them can draw, none of them can write. They’re obsessed with Salt’s work, yet they’re such cynical narcissistic autists that all they know how to do is criticize and be negative. As if their petulant whining is worth fucking ANYTHING.

>>226255 >A lot of artists will never admit to it, but a lot of the "practice" or even "natural talent" mostly amounts to privilege. Art lessons, supplies, manuals and guides. Artists love to tell you that it is all nurture over nature, that anyone can be good and talent doesn't exist; and while that has plenty of truth or at least healthy platitudes, you DO need to acknowledge your origins. I personally take an issue with this kind of talk becuase I only ever see it in one of two ways 1) People complaining because they're not as talented as everyone else and will never be good at art/fat bitches, which implies that talent is the only way and irritates me becuase they want the end result without the hard work or 2) Calling me talented when I can look at 10 years of busting my ass from the shittiest janky bust-up sketches to really polished art I can be proud of. I'm not ignorant to the fact that natural talent exists, but without it anyone can still in fact reach any level of art. It's just a matter of how much time they're willing to put into it and how hard they're willing to work. Can it take one person a year and another person two or three? Sure. I still dont like it when people use it as a scapegoat or try to put me on a pedestal as though I'm naturally gifted.

>>226338 It's less the idea that I'm trying to give an olive branch to the lazy and AI techbros, moreso complaining about how many artists cannot be fully honest about how much support they've been given for their art. Being gifted with pen and paper at young ages usually is more the result of privilege giving them that leg up then being some baby genius at drawing. You've been given 10 years of paper and materials, or at least have the opportunities to train such. I can definitely say my public schools had some SHITTY art classes but at least I had multiple art classes. The art world is not a fair meritocracy and admitting that is sort of a first step to getting over yourself and making good pieces. If you see someone that's been a better artist for you at the same childhood age, make an assumption that their parents helped them more than hard work or natural talent.

>>226340 For me, the only real luck was that when my first tablet broke I was given a half-broken hand me down from a friend. Other than that, I basically worked for every piece of equipment whether it was through a retail job or eventually commissions. I don't disagree with the angle that someone might have a leg up in terms of external support or materials, since that's often just objectively the case, but I also think that all you need to draw is a shitty #2 pencil and literally any paper of any sort and that the barrier of entry is very low. I wish I'd had art classes becuase maybe I couldve shaved off a year or two of drawing headshots because I had no idea how to go further than that (and eventually being too prideful to try), but I've also heard so many mixed things about art classes that it isn't even funny LMAO Usually if I see someone who's a better artist than me at any age my first instinct is to think "Wow they must have worked hard to get there, good for them!" Personally, to look at that and assume ANYTHING from "Oh theyre so talented" to "Oh their parents or curriculum must have helped more" ends up feeling either like cope or like I'm subtly downplaying their achivements even if I know that's not the case.

Not really the point of the convetsation but the other day i saw on twitter a 16 year old's animation work on One Piece and it was so insanely good it just depressed me to be honest. Like i'm sure he worked his ass off to be at that level at that age, but having such drive and determination to do so is a talent on itself in my opinion.

>>226340 Resentful little parasite.

>>226354 This is sort of what I'm talking about when I say you gotta get over yourself. Any kid that develops that level of drive and determination was pretty much privileged enough to get to do that. There's no point in trying to compare your life with someone that got that much free time and training while you had to do anything else to enjoy your childhood. It's sort of like the story of Helen Keller. Everyone gets so caught up with her achievement of gaining literacy despite her disabilities, they forget the fact she was an upper-class, posh white woman whose family could afford the years of lessons and training (remember: social security didn't exist, the Soviet Union had a better deaf-blind treatment and education plan). It doesn't diminish at all overcoming deaf-blindness, but even she admits the only reason she could be a somebody was because her family were rich and outright southern plantation owners (grandfather was a slaveowner, not her immediate family for the record). Genius does not come from nowhere, it is a culmination of opportunities falling onto people's laps and them taking the drive to fulfill them. It's fine to admit you didn't got it and you got to use your time on Earth for other delights.

This specific instance is referring to a preg artist, but it also applies to a startling amount of fat/stuffing artists as well. Just bear with me for a bit >look through belly folder for old art >find an old hyperpreg Muffet image I saved a while back >"Oh yeah, Gloombone drew this. I wonder what he's up to these days" >Look at his twitter >He's now a "she" and goes by the name VerminPrincess >Check media tab >He got so addicted to his fetish that he lost the plot and decided that he wanted to BE the cute girl with a big belly The fetish artist to AGP tranny pipeline is disgusting and depressing, it's a shame to see so many people get sucked into it

>>226338 >they want the end result without the hard work >anyone can still in fact reach any level of art >Can it take one person a year and another person two or three? >Six years >about 3 thousand hours >7GB no result

>>226420 I see a lot of shape and hatching studies here. The images are small but you have a much stronger grasp on shapes and volumes than I had for the first several years of my art where I was floundering around like a dipshit. How deep have you delved into anatomy study? I assume you've done pages of studies of the head/torso/arm/etc. over the span of these six years? If so, is there any place where you most consistently find difficulty? Is it keeping the proportions consistent, or placing the muscle groups right? Are you taking advantage of the free resources out there (Proko is an absurdly helpful source of information, as are channels like Drawing with Jazza and SamDoesArts)? If you are but don't feel like they're clicking, is there any point where they lose you? Are you part of any private or public art communities where you post art and receive critique or participate in art challenges? These are all genuine questions and any answers you give or questions you ask me I will respond to.

Uhh...board staff, what the fuck are you doing? Wake the hel up and ban this nazi in the better with salt thread already

Hey dudes I just wanted to get off my chest that Dr. black jack is a delusional weirdo. The lack of threads/posts about him makes me think people agree, but damn that edgelord is something else.

>privilege I get the point being made, but I can see "privilege" being used in place of the word "talent": "Oh that person is so good they must have been born talented." vs "Oh that person is so good they must be born privileged." vs "Oh that person is so good they must have put in a lot of work and effort." Resources and a support structure can make a huge difference, but you can't put too much emphasis on it compared to drive, which can cause people to succeed and flourish even when they had absolutely nothing. Give the same resources to a kid who doesn't give a shit about drawing and they probably won't show much improvement, if any. I'd say a good portion of "young talent" comes from a child being inclined towards their subject, thus devoting more time towards it in the beginning and coming off like they're natural born savants, when in reality they just started grinding without even knowing it. There are some things that will be born natural, like the ability to observe, deduce, question, criticize, etc, but like others have said, natural abilities go nowhere unless they're honed. >>226420 Art bro... (I admire your drive and tenacity and wish I had even a tenth of it so I could actually get off my ass and practice without getting bored/distracted) >>226413 I'm a firm believer of "Live your life, do no harm, etc etc" but it was a bit disconcerting to be in a group chat where several people seemed to spring up as trans/NB like a common cold was being passed around... >>226434 I checked to see what's up and yeah that's pretty bad... Wonder if we'll have to do the "confirm email or wait 15 minutes" thing 4chan does. >>226451 I don't know about all that but I wish he would've stuck to writing about fat Touhous instead of trying to churn out all these projects. It feels a bit soulless.

>>226420 Keep at it man, you are actually doing really well. You have to pull teeth to get the average randy to do any kind of cylinder, much less a half-decent one! You might need to do some live studies, though instead of the same shape and lighting practice. Can't be so lacking in privilege you don't got anything to draw in your house or a bus ride to copy faces of! >>226451 BlackJack is weird but I dont think he is harmful. An edgelord, commission hog, and pretty lame writer, but not harmful. If you got any evidence, I would be more than happy to shift position, but in terms of fat fetish creators, he seems...fine, I guess? >>226413 something something "the internet can now let you find communities about fucking toasters".jpg. To play Devil's Advocate, a lot of (lefty) artists are already pretty mentally ill. It's not too surprising they lose the plot, especially with as much positive affirmation, but waaay to many think transgender surgery/treatment is a silver bullet.

I thing about learning art is that how much you should practice is literally a person by person basis, because everyone will have a different mindset on these things and will get burnt out at different rates. I became a lot better at art when I actually stopped practicing everyday and had a 6 month break. Despite the fact that I didn't draw at all during that 6 month period, when I picked up the pen again I almost instantaneously drew 10x better than I was before, and I honestly couldn't even give you a proper breakdown as to how that even happened, it just did. Tried to do the same 6 month break thing when I felt my art was stagnating, but then I just ended up regressing and now my art is worse than it was 4 years ago 😅. At this point I think I'm just going to restart with learning all the skills.

>>226451 Where he act as an edgelord?

no offense sunslept but that lip stuff looks awful.

>>226499 Personally, I quite like it

>>226499 Yeah I gotta agree. I would almost say be careful, Sunslept, because that kind of stuff is where other artists lose themselves chasing the ero-high of a niche turn-on in an already niche turn-on.

>>226420 Have you tried doing anything other than these studies? Studies are certainly important for staying sharp but doing them exclusively for a really long time can be really draining. Plus working on other stuff gives you a lot more opportunities to put all this stuff you're studying in context and reinforce it better.

>>226514 >>226423 For the last five months I have been drawing only this. Every day I fill layer after layer in 1 or 2 hours.

I ask again, what the hell happened that made this thread so calm and tame compared to the other Salt thread? Yeah, we sperg out here but it's mainly just rambling.

>>226506 Don’t hate it but I certainly feel it looks odd when overdone. There’s another artist I can’t exactly remember the name of (owllizard I think) whose art I otherwise really like but the way they draw lips is really strange. IDK, maybe I’m in the minority on this opinion.

>>226554 Because it is plainly obvious from how often you keep bringing it up that you're an oblivious drone/fanboy. You're just as irritating and contributory to how bad that thread is.

>>226554 Lurker here but I have to ask - what in the FUCK is up with the salt thread? Genuinely, why is Salt specifically the target of schizos everywhere?

>>226560 Oh yeah, I absolutely loath how Owllizard renders lips. It's so offputting really highlights how amateurish his work comes off as.

>>226540 Drawing shapes is a good vessel for learning line control, but it's never going to teach you the other stuff. I think now that you've been filling layers with that for several months it could be good to pick a piece of anatomy and attack it in the same way. Pick the head and replace your daily practice of that with watching tutorials and doing studies. Repeat that every day for a month and if you go at it with the same dedication you've going at this (so long as you'/re actually absorbing the information and making a concerted effort to improve with each round of practice) you'll see visible improvement.

>>226573 >you're an oblivious drone/fanboy I'm not the one making the big deal about the mere existence of Courtney and Shannon. I don't think he's perfect, he obviously has some misses, but for you to say that I'm an obsessive fanboy? You're retarded.

>>226554 A janitor's been having a meltdown and deleting any post in the salt thread that didn't have an image attached, which prompted a counter-meltdown from spammers.

>>226594 Fucking hell, the nazi retard reached this thread too

>>226554 >>226581 The thread was already a tad volatile and moved pretty fast compared to others so I think shitposters decided it was a good time to dial it up to 11. We've had our fair share of schizoposting in this thread but it was usually on topic and not for the sake of shitting the place up- >>226604 Oh. Well that explains it. I don't disagree with the mod's "purge and retry" method since things were already getting bad, but "keep bitching and I'll just delete every thread on sight" seems a bit much. >>226560 There was an artist I used to like before he too started overdoing it on the lips. He went from doing nice, simple stuff to doing giantess/weird proportions/semi-bimbo/non-human and all of his appeal went out the window for me. Probably just as well because his Twitter started getting filled with constant bitching.

>>226594 For all I care, both Israel and Palestine can suck it. One side has way too strong a military that shouldn't exist in a place called the Holy Land, and the other is just a bunch of sodomizing, woman hating, goat fuckers.

>>226614 I do not support palestine either, but Muslims are evil in the way a rabid bear is - It's just a dumb animal incapable of any rational thought, only vioence. Jews are actively evil. >>226604 I want the jannies to not delete legotimate discussion. Call me a schizo all you want, but not ONE person can deny the jannies are doing this

>>226616 >I want the jannies to not delete legotimate discussion For laughs I'll entertain you and ask what legitimate discussion. What do you want to say about Salt's art? No conspiracies, just art talk.

>>226618 Not just mine, others too. I want him to admit his art ls getting worse, and for legit critique of the new comic to not be erased

>>226619 >I want him to admit his art ls getting worse, and for legit critique of the new comic to not be erased He's not in his own thread. How is the art getting worse? You gotta explain things to get your point across more

>>226620 Apologies, I am zoning out,for it is late. I can explain better tomorrow. basically, I M thinking that aside from his jew connections, peiple are overstating how good he is. This is because i think he has mediocre shading and poor blob anatomy.

>>226618 His latest sequence and comic have not lived up to the standards of his previous work. Personally I think the sequence was just badly paced and should have involved some more poses, having the girl leaning on the counter each time was a poor use of the interesting POV. A page where she's saying something over her shoulder on the way out, another where she's squeezed into a stall, or a sideview through the glass on the way in, there's so much he could have done with it that he didn't. The comic was just bad. There was some lazy rendering that got pointed out several times in the previous thread, most notably the flat eyes which were particularly jarring with bws' other work. More than that the paneling was genuinely amateur and a huge step down from his previous comics. This page was the most egregious example of poor panelling and too much dead space. He needs to decide whether he wants to do a comic, in which case there should be more thought given to how he presents the panels, or whether he wants to do a series of illustrations, in which case he needs to put them in front of the audience without obscuring the details like this. What we have here is the worst of both worlds, a mediocre comic and a poorly formatted sequence. Personally I had lost interest in it pretty early on, but would occasionally lurk the thread just to see what everyone else thought, at least until jannies started deleting any post that expressed an opinion.

>>226593 I don't know what faceless Salt OCs these are, I don't care, and the fact that you can reflexively name whatever OC drama garbage is going on in there is proof enough that you too are stirring the pot. Shut the fuck up.

>>226626 >having the girl leaning on the counter each time was a poor use of the interesting POV I think the point of the sequence was to have the same POV and same basic posing throughout the whole thing in a realistic setting as opposed to "girl gets fatter while standing around in a vacuum". That said, I didn't care for the sequence either, but I can understand what he was going for. >a huge step down from his previous comics I never really liked his other comics all that much and I find comics in general are a massive step down from an artist's usual skill level. I think the criticisms are valid and there is a very noticeable step down from his usual quality, but do you think people might have had their expectations set too high? It's not uncommon for an artist to dial things back in order to mess around or to push something out in a timely manner. As far as I know, he didn't always have a comic running along with his usual Patreon stuff, and if he did it didn't seem to update as frequently as the beach one, but I could be wrong. >at least until jannies started deleting any post that expressed an opinion. They're not intentionally trying to silence BWS's critics. The BWS threads have been becoming steadily more spammy and autistic and it got to a point where it was just easier to purge everything that wasn't an image in hopes of it getting people to settle down. It's happened a few times in Kip's thread in the past, and while it sucked and I didn't agree with all instances of it happening, I understood why they started doing it.

>>226621 Opinion rightfully discarded into the trash. Go back to /pol/, schizo.

>>226630 I'm not stirring the pot, I'm pointing out the fact that these two caused the most incessant whining. In fact, they're the two right above you. This shit has been going on since last December with a fucking Christmas piece involving these two. If you even looked at the comic pages being posted in the BWS thread, the first few posts were incessant bickering about some random nitpicky detail.

Honestly we dident need this comic. Make the proposing a valentines day strip. Make the beach theme a summer render. A fresh comic with a new oc (or finally bringing nat and chloe out of limbo) would have been better.

Ain't no way you guys are bringing up the Bws shit here too. There's barely any actual reasonable discussion in those threads, don't kid yourselves. My posts were among the ones that got deleted despite being a level-headed critique of the comic and you don't see me crying muh jannies

The salt thread is spreading like a fucking tumour. I say we just relegate the salt thread to being a image board so there's no more shit spawned from it.

>>226637 When the worst of the worst on Earth die and go to their respective religion’s version of Hell they’re forced to moderate BWS threads.

>>226604 Smoked the boberry thread for the same issue. Not my job to babysit

I am also a fat artist, and the advantage of BWS is that sometimes you can fail, we don't know what the hell is going on in his personal life, maybe it could be a sign of tiredness or a creative block, all artist go through that, but I remind you that we are talking about a damn human being, it is not a machine that is obliged to draw forever. If your latest comic is ugly, but for the love of God, the vast majority of you don't pay for your "exclusive" content.

Now that I see it, I made a mistake when I wrote it, hehe, I'm stupid XD

>>226636 You love being under the thumb then? >>226633 You are mad I am right. Even ignoring that, the jannies are too power hungry to be allowed to live.

>>225211 >>225245 Itaku died in the crib because the furries took it over and turned it into Furaffinity 2: Electric Boogaloo. Literally the first thing you see when entering the site is a flood of furshit. No shit normal people aren't going to bother when those assholes get to run rampant while you have to actively search for your own specific tastes. It's no surprise that Itaku failed to take off when it's such a poorly managed site, top to bottom.

>>226789 Anon, to be blunt, furries more often than not make a website last, not kill it. There's a reason why even this site has a containment zone. And you not going to get normal people to migrate/use to a DeviantArt clone. Itaku died because it's trying to be Twitter for artists, a concept that doesn't make sense. The reason why DeviantArt, Pixiv, and FurAffinity all make sure you hit the first page and not your Feed when you login is to make you find new artists, not get sequestered to only your favorites and follows. Artists aren't social creatures, they don't really want to interact with their fans or other artists. Building a social media site and not a proper gallery for them is illogical. also the site just kinda sucks. Oddly slow and cumbersome to navigate.

Can we talk about how furries and male x female mutual gaining art has been taking over ehentai lately? Haven't been able to look up anything on there without there being any strings attached, and it's annoying.

>>226802 > furries more often than not make a website last, not kill it Furries are only helpful to the health of a website when they're put into their own specific corner, away from everyone else. If you're looking for furry art, then the site should simply point you to said corner. Not have it be front and center, while normalfags are flashbanged by dog dicks the size of skyscrapers. The rest of your point rings true, but it's issues are only exasperated by the furry art being unavoidable.

Miramiraclerun is back! The king of soft, cute fats is back! >https://www.deviantart.com/structuralnightmare/favourites/92015557/gym-fatties

>>226506 A tranny throwing out his perfectly fine old style as he starts to shoot up bathtub estrogen? Wow anon, I've never heard that one before.

>>226499 >>226506 Yall realize I was drawing this shit like, years ago right? It's a mood that comes and goes. I draw primarily fat stuff but my account is a place where I draw what I want, and that's always been the case. The lip stuf fis always going to be a secondary thing and will not suddenly start invading all of my content, but I would appreciate it if we don't pull a bws thread and act like my work is degrading because I drew a couple of things people didn't like.

>>226649 >Not my job to babysit My nigga your a moderator. Chief wiggum ass.

Speaking of artists who've stuff ACTUALLY got ruined because of lip stuff: Highonfairydust. I don't mind big lips, and sometimes it's hot even, but the way he does it where it's the overemphasis on the bottom lip in particualr is just gross looking, and it's ruined so much of his semi-old art. His art now tho has such botched proportions that I can't even stand to look at it. It's just sad how much he fell off despite SOME aspects of his art getting a lot better. His OC is practically unrecognisable. That recent boob jiggle animation is the only thing he's done in the past 5 years that I've actually liked.

>>226870 Sometimes western artists have too much ego and do the most ugly style choices because mah style. This is like a Dobson who did actually good anime art and then degrade because mah style or art is subjective shit. I'd rather want to see the most bland anime style than another retarded "I'm special" shit.

>"civil discussion thread" >is anything BUT civil

>>226927 My brother in Christ, you are on a Chan site

>>226845 Yeah I didn't say anything about you degrading (not true btw, not after the Rumi sequence) but I've just seen that stuff happen. Do your thing.

>>226952 The Rumi sequence literally forced me to learn new art techniques and dredge up old tech and old programs I hadn't touched in almost a decade, it was genuinely kind of crazy. I wanna do more shit like that but the scope is always so intimidating until I sit down and do it.

>>226927 Trust me, it's been worse. This is calm.

>>226540 stop drawing boxes do not hyperfixate on the DaB meme. It's good practice but not the be all end all. grab printer paper and some decent pencils and just draw gesture using something like posemaniacs to get a feel for how the figure flows. you lack progress because you're not challenging yourself to get out of your comfort zone, so just try to draw something for fun and struggle and fail. get Hamptons Figure Drawing and just grind at it. go on /ic/, ignore the crabs, and grab their resources. any dumbfuck retard can learn to draw, I would know, I am one. A lot of it is just about consistent study/practice. I won't deny that talent can help and so does starting young, but I only started drawing 3 years ago after uni and have a job that leaves me less free time than I would like, so I try to make up for it. im rapidly approaching mid by my standards, but people like my stuff apparently so it's doable. keep it at. we can all make it anon.

Okay, what's going on an the bws thread now? Someone's flooding it with text wall spam!

>>227138 Ok, nvm, it's all good now!

>>227196 This fucking retard. Can the mods perma ban him mf is killing threads with his autistic spamming

>>227196 >>227242 This site gets more and more braindead the more I visit, and I've been here for almost 3 years.

>>227290 It's a consequence of mods refusing to ban the obvious little kids and third worlders that have been shitting up the site for the past few years.

>>227290 I've been here on and off since 2010, this is an improvement compared to bedbenders hiring an agent to handle his comms instead of talking to his customers directly like a non-sped.

>>227367 Damn, didn't know that this site has been here for that long.

BBW Chan might go down this time. Another donation drive thread has started in >>>/gen/

I would like to send a personal fuck you to every member of this community that quit art to become vtubers.

And here's a "fuck you" to the retard who decided to spam the BWS thread with those shitty copy-pasted messages about jews

>>227631 I swear, drawfags are the most autistic fucktards on here. Don't feed the fucking trolls

I am glad at laest one Jap fat artist understand the idea of "crazy Americans do not deserve your patience or "DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING" attitude.

And that Rhythm Heaven BWS-hating faggot is back. Also, why the hell do these idiots have a scat fetish?

>>227730 Finally a Japanese artist who fights back against these woke retards

>>227730 So how long is it going to be until the Cat"girl" tranny is outed for sending middle schoolers creepy DM's on discord? This guy is suspiciously vitriolic against loli art and KKR in particular.

>>227753 The funny thing is, most of those other artists that the person follows is trying to call out for following Kukuru do not give a crap about drawing underage characters. When they showed Squarewave in the screenshot I laughed.

>>227730 Wow a noname western freak hated your art! Must delete everything or zer\zir would cry! Or on serious note, why does this discord mafia thinks that people who make money by drawing would care about they opinion which does nothing with making money? Here is a lot of third world artists who do a commissions as a main source of income, so they are should stop drawing just because some pampered Californian would cry over a few lines on screen? This sort of people are so deep into they version of life where mommy daddy or state would carry them forever and where would be always enough money for a basic stuff.

why is /draw/ more autistic about loli than the actual quarantine boards

https://bbw-chan.link/gen/ What are you dumbasses doing in the draw board?

>>227772 Just pedophiles trying to justify their existence. Tale as old as time.

>>227772 Sorry, I can't hear you over the moans of all the lolis I'm stroking to

>>227772 Some pedos just jack off in peace, others would rather argue online about how they're not pedos. There's also the crowd that doesn't even like lolis but since online lefties hate them they gotta fight on muh culture war too

Lolifags will piss and cry when people say that they're freaks for being sexually attracted to characters like picrel. They're like trannies in a way, indulging in degenerate fantasies and then proclaiming that anyone who hates them must secretly be into it. Like what you like, but don't act shocked and get all self-righteous when freaks get called freaks. Your fetish is not normal, stop pretending otherwise.

>>227821 One is a woman claiming she no longer wants to dress like a man, the other is a freak getting off to children. Don't compare the two.

>>227828 Trans-women are men larping as women. Trans-men and women larping as men. Trannies are freaks too but they're a less harmful breed of freak than pedophiles.

Bruh, these american retards really think liking lolis is a crime. Get your head out of the fucking gutter y'all

>>227241 >>227322 You can't ban someone who knows how to actually use a computer and has no shame or has a vendetta. >>227616 I'd thank them for uncluttering the internet of their mediocre at best, drawings. >>227730 All the Japanese hit their limit; probably gonna be a regular thing with their group of expansion artists, finally telling people to fuck off. >>227762 Because most western artists have no spine. >Here is a lot of third world artists who do a commissions as a main source of income Where does Chile stand? They have a surprisingly regular amount of knee benders. >>227772 From the sound of it, /bhm/ and /bbfurries/ have mods that are refusing to stick to their status as a containment board and are blocking shotas and cubs. >>227808 The common desire of WG lolicons would leave their moans drowned out by the gurgles and churning of their enormous mattress sized bellies. >>227821 >Those flat feet Obviously a glow in the dark midget.

Genuine question here, what exactly are you doing on this site if you hate "pedophiles" and/or furries? I'm not going to question how you view them, moreso questioning why do you want to be anywhere near people you think are the worst of the worst? Quarantined or not, they are technically welcomed by way of having a place for them. And regards to furries, it isn't even like 4chan's /trash/ board, it is not a hidden section at all. It may not be a site FOR them, but you cannot pretend you aren't swimming in the same pool. This what always gets me about these arguments, you have enough vitriol against lolifags/pedophiles/whatever you want to call them, but never enough to target the people hosting them or enough of a conscious to not go to the site with them. I highly doubt you cannot find a site or place that bans all loli/furry discussion everywhere and lets you shitpost to your hearts' content. >>227821 >Your fetish is not normal, stop pretending otherwise. yes cause im sure the desire for a cartoon woman the size of a crane is completely valid and normal and not autistic. We're all freaks in this house, m80. I can at least agree to the idea that a lot of lolicons get caught up on trying to "normalize" their fetish instead of just rolling with the punches and/or dragging every other fetish down with them. It's annoying, but autism really does breed an unhealthy need for acceptance. t'is strange you have poppy's concept art on speed dial, though, hmmmmmm >>227813 >There's also the crowd that doesn't even like lolis but since online lefties hate them they gotta fight on muh culture war too Calling it culture war-fagging is a bit too blunt, especially since both ends of the political spectrum are gonna be anti-loli. It's not about trying to grift clout as it is having a consistent moral stance that is irrespective of personal biases. Very important for any discussion of artistic merit.

>>227835 >yes cause im sure the desire for a cartoon woman the size of a crane is completely valid and normal and not autistic. When did I say it wasn't? If some normie looks at my tastes and goes "freak" I'm not gonna throw a fit because they're absolutely right, lmao. I don't deny I'm a weirdo degen.

>>227835 Because I don't give a shit? They can do whatever the fuck they want for all I care (assuming it's not illegal) but I hate the whole "NO I AM NOT A PEDO I AM NOT A PEDO I AM NOT PEDO DOCTOR HAN" or "NO YOU'RE THE ACTUAL PEDO" bit. Most of the discourse I see online has these guys not only normalizing their fetish but also making it literally their whole personality which is obnoxious as fuck. Everyone laughs at foot fetishist online and you don't see them doing the same shit, meanwhile pedos can't feel remotely slighted by any rando on Twitter without brigading the shit out of them

>>227838 If these "pedos" aren't interacting directly with you, why the fuck should you care about their behavior. Let them be, they're only harming fictional children

>>227839 Leave anon be, he's projecting hard right now.

>>227839 The average pedo defense is so weak kek

>>227839 Have you interacted with literally any other fandom ever? This isn't the only site I browse, retard. Follow literally any new game or anime of the month and if there's a child character there's gonna be discourse and those retards are gonna be crawling out of the sewers

>>227829 It's actually the opposite but you have your fun

You can say it's fictional or a drawing all you want, but if you find attractive a character that "looks", acts, and is canonically a little kid then there is undeniably something wrong.

>>227847 No I was right. Trans-woman is a man who "identifies as" (read: pretends to be) a woman. Trans-man is a woman who "identifies as" a man.

>>227842 At least it's a defense, unlike you retards who attack others for liking taboo stuff

>>227838 >Everyone laughs at foot fetishist online and you don't see them doing the same shit I don't think that's a case of them being more upstanding and having iron will. I've think they just got literally bullied into silence by everyone, and that is not a comforting thought. And it isn't like BBW isn't undergoing through the same shit. Look at all the obnoxious "BBWarrior" posts. >meanwhile pedos can't feel remotely slighted by any rando on Twitter without brigading the shit out of them There is also the bit that the vast majority of randos can't or won't distinguish the difference and think they should be jailed and/or shot. Even I was deliberately cutting out a lot of context to a lot of discussions (just look at >>227730 again and read their exact words). When people are outright coming at you swinging and hoping you die, I don't think you can play the "ugh so annoying, why can't you be immune to all death threats" card, especially when you aren't a public figure. Again, it is annoying to see people make their fetish their whole personality, that's true for any fetish. But most other fetishes don't get the kind of irrational hatred and need to morally grandstand. Also by raw probability, either the offender likes/liked an underaged character or is just an outright pedophile projecting hard. It really does keep happening. >>227849 Being wrong is not a reason to not have a fetish. Taboo subjects are very much commonplace.

>>227730 To quote /dbs/ >Kwab

>>227853 Yet again, you are wrong, a trans woman is a woman who no longer pretends to be a man, and vice versa for a trans man.

>>227838 >also making it literally their whole personality which is obnoxious as fuck That honestly seems like it's most people in WG, whereas lolicons only really have Roxas and maybe Butlova and Mistystuffer. It is possible that Roxas is such an insufferable faggot that it's kinda hard to peg people right. >>227849 >acts We're talking about anime, right? Lolis are either insanely pure or just as big a weirdo as all the other characters that get made these days. It also seems like a common interest to turn lolis into spoiled assholes as they happily glut themselves towards filling a room.

>>227813 >but since online lefties hate them they gotta fight on muh culture war too What fucking timeline are you living on where this is a thing? >>227821 Like what you like, but don't act shocked and get all self-righteous when freaks get called freaks. "How is this person still allowed to breathe" isn't letting people "like what they like", it's literally asking why are they still alive. Trying to put other artists on blast for following another artist isn't letting people "like what they like", it's trying to police a community. >Your fetish is not normal, stop pretending otherwise. NO ONE IS SAYING IT'S NORMAL. The only thing that's happening is people telling this self-righteous FatCat person to fuck off. Know why? Because 9 times out of 10, these people who are trying to brigade and dictate this community are always guilty of liking similar shit, and everyone is fucking sick of it. Whenever this discussion comes up, it's not the 'loli defense force" coming out of the woodwork to bitch about it, it's people who are sick of hypocrites and having their community policed. Also worth mentioning, this person claims to be 19, meaning they've been in this scene for less than two years and are already trying to control it.

>>227874 I like Roxas's art but yeah, he is a bit of a fag. See my previous whinge about "Artists on DeviantArt Getting Surprised They Got Slapped By DeviantArt Mods" up above. You won't really see the Diehard Lolicons unless you get too deep into the anime circles of Xitter. Especially with the prominence of Blue Archive, you get a lot of people that don't really keep it in their pants. It's no secret that a lot of them are needlessly combative as well, I just completely understand why they are like that and can't even argue that its unproductive. And pretending that there is a "normal" way to engage with sexual art is just a power play from people pretending they have dominance over people. >That honestly seems like it's most people in WG That is IN the expected zone. Can't really be shocked the people in the fat fetish forum act like complete fat fetish degenerates. It's more a complaint in places like Xitter where the algorithms are designed to match you up against people you don't like and begin conflict. It's why people here can pretend that a trans discussion would go anywhere but no one complains about the overuse of "fag", website cultures are weird. >It also seems like a common interest to turn lolis into spoiled assholes as they happily glut themselves towards filling a room. More in writing than in art, unfortunately. Fatty mesugakis are a rarity, that's why people are still attached to the one from an *18-year-old manga*.

>>227730 >>227860 Why do you even bother giving this fatcat person attention? I'd get it if it was a big artist or something pitching a fit but this is a literal nobody with 40 followers lol, their opinion is worthless. Might as well hop in a dumpster to pick a fight with a cockroach

>>227890 >Roxas >a bit of a fag >a bit Pic related >Diehard Lolicons unless you get too deep into the anime circles of Xitter Ah, the average lolicon, not the fattening type. >Blue Archive Lets be serious, you should always expect a slobber covered post whenever you're dealing with waifubait gacha games and Blue Archive seems like it wants to take Azur Lanes spot as gacha loli king. >Can't really be shocked the people in the fat fetish forum act like complete fat fetish degenerates I'm talking about everywhere; on their twatter accounts, DA accounts, I imagine pisscord and anything else they're open about it. They act as it's a large part of their existence and will attack you if you even say something they think is slightly negative about what they like. >Fatty mesugakis are a rarity There's not really any targets in anime or it ends up being something like Maou-Sama Retry and gets overlooked. >that's why people are still attached to the one from an *18-year-old manga* Who? >>227905 >40 followers >opinion is worthless Roxas?

>>227864 The anti-loli sped is a tranny color me surprised.

>>227847 Thing is though is that everyone on 4chinz hates trannies for being brainwashing pedophiles or something and not just weird assholes. I feel like its moreso the pedo part that leads to the hatred than them just being delusional, because you can be a harmless delusional retard but you can never be a harmless pedophile

>>227864 >The body treats sex reassignment surgery has and open wound, and will try to heal it Just kill yourself pal

>>227934 Every sane person is anti-loli wtf are you talking about?

>>227964 Loli ain't real schizo.

you guys doing no nut november?

>>227967 You're not alone, but with the way that BBWDraw has been, it makes it a little easier. That, and strenuous hours of work before Thanksgiving. Oh well, at least the last day falls that weekend.

>>227966 You're still cranking it to a child, freak

>>227977 Mutilating your genitals won't make you a woman, freak.

>>227966 Yeah and what goes through your head when you look at a child nonce

>>227977 You know that pedo means you do a shit with an actual real kid like Mr Beast friends and not jerking off to the picture of Madoka. You understand the difference? Maybe this is a hard challenge for a pampered American kiddo, but Madoka would not somehow appears as a real person and then lead you to the court. And maybe this is would be a huge shock to you but I saw a lot of people around the loli manga section in Akihabara shop and no real kids and no interaction with them to make it a pedo interaction unlike Twitter or pisscord chats. So stop this though crime shit or fiction character rights shit or go to a prison once you murder a person in video game because this was depicted on the screen too, faggot.

>>227835 >>227838 >>227849 Honestly my only thing with the loli debate is I think people get too caught up on fictional character ages. I understand people having issues with lolicons but they lose me when it's some shonen series girl or something who isn't presented or written as an actual kid. I've seen a character like Orihime from Bleach get grouped in with loli characters and that's silly. It's not about moral grandstanding or anything, I just think people get hung up on numbers

For real. You can literally not convince me that it is morally incorrect to like a character built like this just because she's "17"

Frankly this is why these conversations are always messy and unproductive, because what happens is you have ""two sides"" but those sides are split into 3 or 4 factions that all have a different stance on the debate, meanwhile you have the people just lobbing insults back and forth, and by the time all is said and done nothing actually changes and everyone moves on prett unaffected, throwing stones from glass houses and focused more on being superior than actually making a difference.

>>22783 If only cringe culture was still a thing and bully fucktards into ragequit, maybe these mentally deranged artists would stfu about politics and expect to be taken seriously. >>227993 >American kiddo So you admit that you're a shitskin? Man your mixed genes are giving you a hard time, good thing this autistic echochamber has put in shackles so you wouldn't spread that shit like the chink virus.

>>228004 I don't even want to side with lolicons since it's not something I care for but you always have non-loli stuff getting dragged in too. Throw in video game girls where whatever the wikis say their ages are is an afterthought. I can assure you that "pretty lady" and the story are the thoughts going through my head instead of any of that. Most threads on this very board should be deleted if you get very anal about it. >>228005 That's life as a whole, ain't it? Maybe it's sad to think of the futility of it all but we're ultimately silly creatures who take ourselves way too seriously. Imagine us all having stone cold faces while browsing a fat fetish board to argue the ethics of which cartoon girls are acceptable. I'm literally doing it right now with this pseudo-intellectual spiel.

>>228005 >nothing actually changes and everyone moves on prett unaffected, You're so close. Break the cycle. Nothing will change by you staying here. Move on unless you're going to have FUN posting here

>>227990 You'd figure they'd lean already with the sheer volume of detransition stories out there, to say nothing of the 48% suicide rate. But nope, they're totally heckin' valid people of gender no matter how much their parents beg them to get out of the fetish cult. >>228014 >So you admit that you're a shitskin? I think his use of "you do a shit with" gave it away lmao. God, fucking mystery meat creatures are always pure cringe.

Tranny talk should be moved to /gen/. Why the fuck do y'all need to talk about trannies all day everywhere lmao

>>228042 Oh so you're just a parrot, okay then

>>228050 With various people screeching about loli turning out to be pedophiles, it's just pattern recognition at this point, anon. No parroting, just a fact. Fuck, this shit even hit the "UNinvolved in peace" UN once.

>>228050 Faggot all you've done is spew the same basic bitch anti-loli rhetoric you learned from plebbit, get your sorry ass out of where with this "y-y-y-you're just a p-p-parrot!11one" bullshit lmao.

>>228054 LMAO. Tell me you would fuck children if you could get away with it without telling me you would fuck children if you could get away with it.

>>228055 I came here for banter and this is the best you can do? What a waste of dubs lmao.

>>228052 >Find some retards shitting on muh lolis online that turn out to be pedos out of the whole internet that is constantly against "lolicons" >Now literally everyone saying something bad about muh lolis has to be a pedo and not the guys making and masturbating to erotic drawings of children-like characters Pedos are so fucking retarded

>>228056 Bruh, you seem like the type of person who is trying to save up their government welfare checks for a luxury dream vacation to Epstein Island.

>>228062 Lamo no, you are not whitewashing the entire smash bros community just because it's inconvenient to your little gaslighting effort, to say nothing of the xitter horde. >>228067 Tell the class why trannys are obsessed with mutilating the genitals of children.

>>228069 You know it's possible to hate both trannies and pedos right?

>>228004 Tite Kubo made it hard not to want almost every woman in that series, even with Karin being near if not at the top for me. >>228052 >this shit even hit the "UNinvolved in peace" UN once >once Anon, it's at least 3 times, and that's what's known. >>228069 >Tell the class why trannys are obsessed with mutilating the genitals of children Thing I wanna know is why they always take characters like Bridget and ship them with characters like May.

>>228071 And the faggot pointing fingers is both lol. >>228072 Because they're retarded and think it's a lesbian ship. The funny part is Bridget actually is the best possible tranny representation because he was groomed and gaslit into thinking he's a woman.

>>228073 You're the one defending freaks who jerk it to sexually explicit drawings of children. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and deserves to be thrown dick first into a wood chipper like a duck...

>>228076 Said the unimpressive man whose gooned himself into thinking he is the cute anime girl. Don't think I didn't see how you tried to dodge my question either faggot, all trannys are child molesters just waiting for the opportunity and this includes you lmao.

>>228079 Because I'm not a tranny you fucking retarded chomo. Also, you never asked me a question shit-dick. All you did was screech autistically like "reeeeee anybody who hates pedophiles wants to chop their dick off".

>>228069 Oh that's easy They aren't

Oh man, arguing about lolis and trans people? Now this is more like the /bbwdraw/ I know. Thank goodness those silly schizoposters figured out which salt thread is the one for arguing in.

>>228076 So if someone who had no interaction with a real children but faps to Madoka is a pedo, so with the same logic you is a thief because you steal a gold in a Skyrim. I imagine how you would try to tell a shit like this outside of USA. "he is a pedo because in his mind..." or "because he faps to a fictional character in animu".

>>228087 Pedos come up with the most retarded mental gymnastics just to not admit they're pedos lol

>>228081 So you're just a girldick chaser? That totally doesn't make you a faggot at all anon.Tell, is chris chan a man or a woman? >>228087 Mentioning skyrim is the puzzle piece on top of that autistic sundae.

>>228073 >Because they're retarded and think it's a lesbian ship No, no, I get that, I mean that last I heard (haven't played a Guilty Gear since Carnival), May is supposed to be a short flat chested girl.

>>228089 >girldick chaser GOCK TUAH

>"if you don't like us you're a tranny!" No one likes you either pedo freaks

>>228089 What part of "I hate trannies and pedos" do you not get retard? You said you wanted some banter maybe start with basic literacy.

>>228094 >>228089 >>228079 >>228081 Take your meds you freaks.

>>228090 I'm not sure anon, every part of the GG fandom is a trashfire at this point and the only thing keeping strive going are discord trannys. >>228093 Lamo how much action do the tranny threads get and how many loli threads are there? God, the projection you vulnerable narcissists have is insane. >>228094 Anon lying to yourself is the fakest and gayest thing you can do outside of slobbering on girldick, you know that right?

>>228076 Threatening death on people over drawings is totally sane anon.

>>228087 There's porn out there that depicts babies getting fucked, even if it's in anime style i'm not sure how you can equate liking that shit to robbing or killing people in a game.

Man you can really tell it's an election year huh

>>228062 I don't have the image, but there's one specific image where people complaining about it are revealed to be creeps for doing it. So yet again, pattern recognition. I'm not gonna fap to it, but I'm not gonna screech over it either. >>228072 Well damn, I just remember seeing the one about the politician trying to ban doujinshi.

Do you guys like angry birds

>>228121 You don't need to post shit, I've seen it several times. Those pedos never stop bringing it up because their only defense is "no u"

>>228124 Agheingiya

>>228113 And defending the act of jacking off to child porn is definitely much more sane

>>228113 I mean there's been how many pooner shooting up elementary school kids now? Trannys are nothing but deranged psychopaths so violence is the order of the day for them. >>228115 Really weird that you know that anon, almost as if you've got skeletons in your closet lmao. >>228156 See this is what it really is all about, basic bitch deflection from troonacy when your fetish cult is crashing and burning. God you're so basic.

>>228175 You. Are. Defending. Child. Porn. Deflect all you want, that is what you are doing, you should feel sick and want to kill yourself, but for some reason you want to instead pass the blame and CONTINUE defending child porn.

>>228180 Rolls back to my original question >>227835 as you DO know this site hosts what you believe is child porn? You should not be here, quarantine zones are not a legal or moral defense. You shouldn't be pissed and want to lynch some random schmuck, you should be brigading the website itself. Unless you don't actually believe it is child porn, then in that case why so angry at another's fetish?

>>228175 >nazi defends child porn You're like a bad supervillian from an 80's cartoon pack it in nigga

>>228175 >Really weird that you know that anon, almost as if you've got skeletons in your closet lmao.

>>228175 >you've got skeletons in your closet You can browse exhentai looking for anything and chances are you will come across that type of shit, i didn't even have to open it, genuinely disgusting stuff.

>>228184 Oh, that one's easy too You "people" don't deserve a place to congregate. So you need to be kicked out, and the site wiped clean of any and all CP. Then we can go to business as usual. Now, answer this: Why are you defending the act of jacking off to children?

>>228299 >Exhentai You can just use e-hentai, that's the "safer" site and have less lolicon content. If you have reasonably vanilla tastes and not hunting down old-ass artbooks, exhentai is honestly overkill a lot of the time. You have no reason to be treading on unholy grounds if you have no love for unholy content. Unless you feel the need to get more skeletons for your closet. >>228305 >This sanctimonious bullshit Say what you will about the Scat Fetish Air Rally Schizo, he's at least making the site harder to bear. I don't see how trying to be the absolute gigachad of anti-loli in the Discussion channel, on a site that hosts lolicon content is anywhere approaching productive. It is actually kind of confusing in what your hopes are, that the admins come to some spiritual awakening and smite the "pedos" off? Shut down /bbwalt/ and /bbfurries/ and /elite/ and all the other boards that hosts content you don't like? What part of your mind actually considers this effective at all? I am genuinely curious. Even if I would say everything you said is 100% correct (I wouldn't want a bunch of CSEM-sharers sitting around in secret/public), I would be doing a lot more than just...this. >Why are you defending the act of jacking off to children? Fictional depictions of children are the same as any other fictional depiction of any taboo subject. If it wasn't made to promote harm against children nor was created by such, then standing on moral grounds is pointless. I have better things to take offense about, creators that genuinely have hurt or promoted the violence against the youth and innocent like R. Kelly, Nobuhiro Watsuki, Bill Cosby, and other people that the public DEFEND just because they made something they like than to play six degrees of separation of improbable child harm for the sake of internet points on fat woman basket weaving forums. So again I ask, why are you here? TL;DR: Cute art is cute. My lifetime is better spent than saying otherwise.

>>228316 I didn't say anything about bbwalt, elite and bbfurries, you made the scope bigger yourself because, again, you don't want to take responsibility for DEFENDING CHILD PORN

>>228316 >If it wasn't made to promote harm against children nor was created by such, then standing on moral grounds is pointless Any drawing of children meant to be sexually explicit and provoke feelings of lust in pedophiles is inherently promoting harm against children. No some freak drawing pictures isn't as bad as guys like P-Diddy or Jeffery Epstein but it's still bad.

>>228317 You weren't the person that was even being talked to, first of all. If you were, don't know why you want to admit to phone posting. Second, the scope has to be wide because those are places that host loli/shota/cub content and protected by BBW-chan. There's fundamentally nothing stopping the mods from saying "No" to that content on those boards just like -draw here, at any time, yet here we are. Thirdly...fucking how and why? You are extremely caught up on "taking responsibility" (read: kill myself), but you are no admin, therapist, glow-in-the-dark-CIA-nigger, or anyone worth debasing myself. Even if was a child predator, why would I do anything for you? Why would I feel bad for you? The funniest thing about anonymous image boards is that your opinion doesn't matter. You put no collateral against yourself. If you want to see any real change, you gotta do more than just shitpost on easy modo. I'm not even going on the trek of "Child porn (and 'revenge porn' the way we understand it) can't exist because you can never make porn of a child -- it will ever only be exploitation material", that requires a level of brainpower above your paygrade. My only real suggestion here then is for you to take responsibility (no suicide required!) and don't go to websites that protects 'child porn' and the people that consume such. It cannot be that hard to not engage with degens that don't share your 'moral fiber' and will never be convinced to kill themselves for you.

>>228322 Does any pic on this site promote the obesity crisis? Of force-feeding dangerous amounts of food? The "Health At Any Size" movement? No? They just to get your rocks off? Again, a lot of it is just stupid amounts of paranoia and six degrees of outright fortune telling to label someone you don't like worthy of being shot. No one is saying you have to like art you find morally objectionable, but you should analyze the rhetoric you use in discussing this. By your own words, freaks drawing pictures ARE just as bad as Epstein. Harm against children is not something to be splitting hairs on moral grounds.

>>228325 "Health at Any Size" IS actually harmful and anybody who believes it is stupid at best or evil at worst.

>>228327 We can agree to that one, that stuff is pure delusion. But you can't say any art here, or even the IRL pics in the normal channels, are promoting such. No one here is saying this stuff is promoting an agenda or wants to see the harm against other people. It doesn't take any cognitive dissonance to enjoy fat art while not being okay with promoting obesity or unhealthy eating habits. If you can give that some slack, I think you can at least understand the thought processes of more taboo subjects.

>>228327 And, by your metric, you don't want to take responsibility for browsing a site that hosts child porn. You still never answered the question as to why you're browsing a site that hosts child porn. >>228322 This is the same stupid rhetoric that was used to try and ban music/movies/books/tv/games throughout the ages. If a piece of fictional media is enough to cause someone to do something heinous, harmful, or illegal, the fault doesn't lie with the media, but rather, the person.

>>228323 You shouldn't feel bad for me. You should feel bad for yourself.

>>228184 Anon you know that's asking too much of this cunt. If he's dumb enough to think cutting his dick off will make him a woman then he's retarded enough to think the CP is in the room with him right now. >>228299 You're a lying faggot, every hentai site I've used keeps the extreme shit off the front page and puts up content warnings on top of that. Admit it, you're a pedophile throwing accusations around to feel better about himself just like all the other freaks. >>228210 Yes anon, everyone who disagrees with your is literally Hitler lmao.

The twitter tranny crying about "muh child porn" and posting fucking wojaks is proof that lolis are the ultimate gatekeepers and are desperately needed to keep retarded zoomers away from whatever it is you enjoy.

>>228405 goddamn, sauce on that pic?

>>228404 >>228405 Holy shit man you've completely lost it

>>228405 Amen to that brother, beauty always repels evil. Case in point >>228414 is sperging out right on command lmao.

>>228443 Japanese men are sissies, and their women are raging dykes because they're eating 13.5 pounds of soy a day.

If you all want a pallet cleanser just check out the nofap threads on /gen/ No idea what compels people to do this shit on a porn site.

>>228405 What if the retarded zoomer is the one who is into the lolis? (Me)

It's always funny/pathetic watching artfags try to inject their politics into wank material. As if they have any sway. Anyone have more examples of fatfags/artfags trying to use their "platform" for politics?

>>228480 The problem with this shit is they are preaching to the choir or to ears of stone. No in-between

>>228411 Don't expect anything close to that amount of pudge: https://twitter.com/so_zikan108/status/1343207776919556097 >>228480 Fat pics aren't the place to be advertising for a party that'll lower the amount of fat people because of the insane food prices among other things.

>>228480 >>228488 Political autism would be a bit more tolerable if they actually cared about the country either way. I can't stand the twofaced shit where somebody mentions voting being important but undermines it with hyper-partisan Team Good Guys vs Team Bad Guys. The fuck's the point of the mask if you're not even wearing it? Obviously everyone has their biases they feel strongly about and I'll get mad fun of for saying this but sensationalism is a cancer we really need to kill

>>228495 >sensationalism is a cancer we really need to kill Spoken without a shred of irony no doubt.

>>228508 Does it even matter? I joke but It's tiring seeing grown adults boil the world down to Team Good Guys and Team Bad Guys. The world will continue to move on and you can't make every argument out to be the complete end of civilization or whatever hyperbolic statements we're going for.

>>228480 The notorious C.H.U.D. Saltington has been going hard with the usual "don't fall for misinformation and make an informed choice" fascist dogwhistles this year. I can't wait to see him break down once his orange manchild rapist loses bigly.

>>228405 >>228411 You guys masturbate to child porn?

>>228512 I could never take chud seriously as an insult. It's a movie title reference. It sounds like something you'd make up as a joke about the kinds of people who'd use chud. I don't even care about the politics. It's so silly

>>228512 Orange man or the fake nigger, you gringos are doomed

>>228517 Every time I see it used, I remember I need to go watch it. It's at least a better insult than touch grass. >>228520 No, my tacostani friend, Kamala wins, and you and everyone else are doomed along with us.

>>228523 >Every time I see it used, I remember I need to go watch it. It's at least a better insult than touch grass. The only way chud could've been sillier if they used a more mainstream reference. Cobra, Hydra, Decepticons, whatever cartoon bad guy team you can name. The obscurity is the only thing stopping anyone from laughing

>>228517 >>228527 (soy boy faggot) Chud has taken off, nobody's referencing anything when they say it.

>>228534 Intent doesn't matter. It's like how red pill/blue pill still comes from the Matrix even if you're somehow unaware of it. That's how etymologies work

>>228444 The Japanese ferment their soy to kill the phitoestrogens and that's the key difference, as the doctor explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz9axfcIsYs

>Trump wins yet again Ahahahahahaha, can't wait for all the fetish artists to start crying about politics on their belly kink art twitter accounts.

>>228559 lmao Makes me want to make fun of the political fucks on my own account. I'll have to settle for an alt since I don't want to kill my art account yet.

>>228559 Guess that's it for WWIII, now we just have to live through a civil war.

>>228512 HE WON THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

Nothing will happen. Nothing happened during Trumps's first term. If you think the fat retard with a Jersey accent is going to take away your rights, you drank too much of the prog kool aid. t. liberal

>>228480 Mistystuffer did a few political comics back in the early 2010s but they're lost to time now. One of them was hillary as a pig being shovelled slop by Ron Paul. Remember before posting "BASED" that you'll be aligning yourself with the most known pedophile in the community.

Speaking as a Britfag, I have little reason to be bothered about a Trump win because with any decent chance he'll start to drive down the value of the dollar like last time he was President and that means I can just get more commissions for my money. Culture War be damned, I'll just be happy to get my fatties.

>read political chat in a fat art server (I don't know why they have that) >"Guys.... Unfortunately I'll be deleting my account because Trump will ban NSFW" Are all fat artists actually retarded

>>228581 They are retarded because they've been in their echo chambers for over a decade. These people never talked to a non leftist about anything and wonder why no one agrees with them. Fuck'em.

Whelp, Trump won the Presidency… what’s gonna happen here when Project 2025 comes in effect…?

>>228604 Come, my friend! It is time to be porn criminals!

Back again to educate you leftist idiots. Project 2025 is not Trump's plan, if anything it's Agenda 47. None of you fucks even read Project 2025, because you'd know it's from dumb conversation think tank, The Heritage Foundation who has been doing Project [Insert Year] since forever and magically 2025 is going to be followed. Spoilers it's never have been followed. "But the people that made it were part of Trump's cabinet and will be in this one!" Trump literally has his own agenda and you really think a man with a big as an ego as his is going to listen to something other than his own plan?

>>228610 Okay… wonder how Trump will do when his Ass-Kissers, Bootlickers and Nazis for his Nazi America is gonna do with the corn sites like this and of course he might have Pedophiles in his White House like his previous 4 years…

>>228612 You're a child.

>>228614 I mean he might ban Video Games, Anime, Manga, Comics, Corn and everything we enjoy so much…

>>228323 >your pic Got anything else saved from Tonau? I've been desperately looking for any piece of his art since he nuked his account in the summer

>>228480 I made an edit of this guy's drawing. His style is as easy as Ben Garrison's to made edits for.

>>228615 Retarded or actually a child

>>228405 >>228411 >>228404 >>228323 Any site that allows or tolerates lolicon will always have to deal with the hoard of pedophiles flocking to it. You are not gate keeping anything, you are not based, you are no better than the kikes that produced Cuties. Lolicons absolutely deserve scorn and expulsion just like trannies and furrys should. Just trannies and furrys they will defend there degeneracy and fill infest any community like a bunch of flies where ever they are tolerated and try to overtake it so they are the majority there.

>>228612 >>228615 >Corn Bros, I-I can't believe it... W-We'll never get to eat corn on the cob at Thanksgiving dinner ever again. Trump truly is the second coming of Hitler...

>>228612 Did you fucking said "corn site"? TikTok is over thataway... >>228629 I think so, I don't do a good job organizing my archive but I do got a few saved. Shame he went the way of "DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING" like so many other Jap artists... >>228635 >Any site that allows or tolerates lolicon will always have to deal with the hoard of pedophiles flocking to it. > Just trannies and furrys they will defend there degeneracy and fill infest any community like a bunch of flies where ever they are tolerated and try to overtake it so they are the majority there. Mayhaps you are more than a little late on deciding that bit. Fuck, for the trannies bit, you aren't even in the IRL sections of the site, but the drawings one. You gotta take how leftist most (fetish) artists are by design. >you are no better than the kikes that produced Cuties. Remember, the big issue was them literally exploiting living childrens' bodies, for the sake of a "Growing up is TOUGH!" message.

>>228638 Bruh Corn is a disguising word for Porn you “R”

>>228512 :^)

>>228641 We're not on tiktok you literal retarded child, you can say "retard".

>>228612 >>228615 >>228641 Niggerfaggot.

>>228656 Salt, can you give her diabetes? Please Salt I need this

I fucking hate that these troons keep fucking abandoning X for fagsky Just post your art and grow thick skin for once

>>228664 Get in the crystal, libtard

>>228665 “Put up with the site full of hate, bots than ever before and literal Neo Nazi’s”

>>228665 I hate it because bluesky is genuinely terrible for image sharing. The compression is somehow even worse than Twitter.

Why this evil nazi Twitter always showing me a lefty posts about Trump steal election and never any right wing ones? Even if everything I watch is art

>>228665 "Why do all these artists keep leaving after the terms and conditions clearly stated that their art would be scraped for LLM training?"

>>228641 Do you know where you are dumbass

>>228668 You made her hat yellow, I'm giving you 3 "good job" points

>>226818 Miramiraclerun is a top 5 fat artist. He actually makes the girls look cute and the fat look appealing. Makes them look moe without overdoing, or not doing it enough.

>>228635 No that's any site hosting pokemon content. >>228639 It always goes back to the muh 2D rights argument, every time. Trannys can eat children alive on the streets of san francisco and faggots like him will still complain about a drawing of Anya being stuffed full of cookies.

>>228639 Thank you for those, I'll take anything else you have from him (pretty please). I literally liked him so much I made a Pixiv just to follow him befire he had a Twitter

>>228682 Twitter shows you posts and people that you think you'll "engage" with (aka, argue forever) simple as that. That's why more progressive users constantly get shown nazi shit and vice versa, twitter literally wants you to argue with people about nothing forever because it makes them money.

>>228612 >>228686 retards.

>>228693 What a lovely hypothetical, now please explain what trans people have to do with your obsession with child porn

>>228694 A few more I found reuploaded to DA, hence the filenames. Guess that's one good thing about clout-chasing art reposters (nigga didn't even source his shit), good way to keep some evidence a Jap artist existed once they inevitably get cold feet. Seriously, I spent a good hour searching about, I was shocked how there is just no trace of him.

>>228480 >Canadian

>>228665 I just want to look at fat girls man. Why do we have to be so knee jerked in nothing burgers bros…

>>228705 Thank you. I really hop he comes back, he already vanished once in 2022 and returned

>>228710 You MUST be political. Why? Well, because you just HAVE to be! Art is political, you goober!

>>228665 >"Nobody's going to leave twitter! They're just going to bitch about it for a week and nothing will happen!" >WTF WHY ARE PEOPLE ACTUALLY LEAVING TWITTER?!" I swear half the fucking posters here are lobotomized.

Don't understand why so many people are against Bluesky. It feels like a more chill version of twitter, my feed is 95% art from people I follow. There's the occasional politics post here and there, but nothing quite like twitter. This admittedly has up ticked recently because of the ellection and the direction Musk has been steering twitter in but it's still way less than what you'd see on twitter itself. >>228695 is correct, Twitters algorithm tries to show you things that get you mad. Even if you're not personally "engaging" with that type of content, liking and retweeting posts from people dunking on people insisting that drawing smut of Momo from MHA makes you a nonce. Once you actually get a curated feed you start to realise how little all of these hot takes actually matter.

>>228698 Hey nigga you know what is a bad thing about child pron? Involving of a child. You know that Megumin or Madoka is not a child or a human and don't even exists right? At the very end we hate shit because of actual harm. Next go to vore thread and scream about cannibalism (also free penistina) (but ignore latest African Christian massacres!). And don't forget go to danbooroo and contact every artist who did Asuka nsfw and point to the REAL KIDS WHO GET HURT BECAUSE 0F ASUKA drawing. Oh mah 8k pedos and they child slave camps with these asukas...

>>228734 >Even if you're not personally "engaging" with that type of content, liking and retweeting posts from people dunking on people insisting that drawing smut of Momo from MHA makes you a nonce, liking posts that make fun of them still train the twitter algorithm to show you those types of opinions anyway. Accidentally deleted part of my post, whoops.

>>228734 >>228736 The simple answer is that, even if it was a better place for artists, it can only just become Twitter again. It does nothing else new, all these artists are asking you to abandon a platform to make it exactly like the old one. And if you want to say "I only want the lefty people here!", the very nature of algorithms for social media sites will eventually make you fight against something, because that's why you are in a social media site: to interact with people. You are asking me to join another site, most likely use both, to do everything I would normally use the previous site for. Solely because of political intentions. At least with all the bad YouTube clones like Vid.me or Rumble that "got overrun by chuds", EVERYONE been complaining for years that YT's systems are incredibly flawed and cannot support everyone chasing after monetization. Exact competition makes sense for video clients, but not for Twitter. If BlueSky ever gets any other feature worth a damn (decentralized social sites are not one, it makes no sense), maybe it would be worth it.

Hey, I wish there was a better way to distribute these, but take a steam key or two. I've had some of these for years and worst case scenario is you get something you've never heard of. I'd request that you only take one or two, so more can get something but I doubt people will actually respect that. Take your pick see what you get This is also why I put it in images. So then you cant get three people copy-pasting everything and hogging it all to themselves, so I had to make it at least a slight pain in the ass.

>>228735 Great answer, buddy, just don't get caught staring in your local park

>>228763 Holy shit man, thank you, i got an ace attorney game and ghost detective, i'll respect your request and just claim those.

>>228763 Grabbed Keys 138 and 152, AAAAA For the Awesome and Dead Rising 2! Thank you, anon.

>>228764 I dont care about real people at all.

>>228763 Appreciated. I did get a little greedy and grabbed a third one because the second one ended up being a really gay looking VN called Kimmy which I will most certainly never play. I ended up getting Necromonads with the first code and Street Fighter V Champion Edition with the third.

>>228763 I got 177 and 185, so I think that makes WH40K Gladius and Vermintide Thanks a ton, and an advanced Merry Christmas to you!

>>228774 Yeah some of them look rubbish for sure so I wouldn't blame you. I've had some of them for years. 99% of what I actually play is Noita and Doom Wads so I'd rather give shit away. Theres a bunch of Sakura "games" in there too and I didn't even add all the codes for all of them yet. I'll have another batch of keys when they unlock and I have a few games I got on clearance I might add, but the next batch is going to be significantly smaller than this one

How do you open things like this? I’m seeing a lot of people sends stuff like this when asked to share files and idk how to open it “YUhSMGNITTZMeTluYjJacGJHVXVhVzh2WkM5UVVtWmFaR0k9”

>>228763 I grabbed 136, some junk looking puzzle game. Thanks man.

>>228780 It's Base64, just paste it into an online base 64 decoder. You might need to do it multiple times for that link

>>228763 What the fuck? All the keys are claimed at this point...

>>228763 Got sakura mmo and gotham knights, thanks son

https://nplink.net/lyla74ft

>>228763 Grabbed 181 and 94, thanks for the free games pal.

>>228563 So you're a coward AND a piece of shit. Good to know, you better hope nobody actually follows that alt.

real talk the main girl from kageyragey's cyberpunk comic might be the most fuckable character from any weight gain art i've ever seen, I am so cataclysmically downbad for this bitch its insane. (edited for brevity and to remove the weird conservative guys he puts in there who look like inbred monsters "because of eugenics")

>>228763 Thank you, Lizard Santa

>>228758 Okay, but it'd make billionaires angy so... >:]

Bitch this is a naked fat lady website.

>>228604 Oi, youdibt belive that shajt, do ya? Beside we are completly safe, no one can ban "fat porn" no one care for our kink. So as left like to sa: "Its not happening, and if its happening its achuuuuly a good thing."

>>228879 I can not wait for you magatards get run over by project 2025. Acting like they won't fine or ban any DNS server linking to anything even considered within spitting distance to porn. There is a reason you don't see middle eastern fatty wank now do you. Cuz their countries police porn the same as what's coming to the USA. So get ready to loose bros

>>228604 I don't think this website has long enough to even see Project 2025 to be perfectly honest

>>228604 >>228889 >>228908 Ah yes, Project 2025. The thing that Trump has denounced every single time someone has bought it up with him, and was created by a conservative think tank with no connection to him or his campaign. It truly is the end of the world, bros. Fuhrer Bonalds Grumpf will DEFINITELY criminalize porn...

>>228889 >There is a reason you don't see middle eastern fatty wank now do you. Download instragram and you can see thousands of fat assed hijabi hoes in a minute. Absolutely laughing my fucking white ass off at the desperate fear mongering you subhumans are resorting to.

>>228953 “But dw bros, only trumps closest allies have come out and said it’s their intention and goal to in-act project2025!”

>>228953 Kisame here, The Trumps are Presbyterian which is that kooky downstate religion. He's only protestant in the sense his dad copied Billy Graham. Presbyterians are liberal in the sense they don't care as they are Calvinists who believes God is sovereign, went to the boy scout, and salvation army. Republicans hate the Trump's cause they keep swindling the government out of federal loans to build housing for profit, pissing off Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, and Bush in the process.

>>228983 I would also add that Presbyterians tend to be more sex crazed and positive

>>228879 >>228908 >>228972 >>228976 >>228983 >>228984 My fucking god. We're going to have to deal with this level of retardation for 4 years... Fucking Americans... both sides are so embarrassing.

>>228985 Trump is dumb like the Gottis. Don't bother cause you wanted this retardation

Alright lads, take the politics to /gen/ by the time this thread dies.

>>228992 There's nothing political about the Trump's. Gen Z is very vacuous about politics and just don't like suburban conformity that Harris-Obama demanded. Trump won happened cause Gen X turned into entitled boomers the moment children troon. Really, Trump's win is a repudiation of geek culture's dominance in Hollywood.

Who the fuck keeps uploading jfifs to the site? I can understand the occasional webp getting tossed into the mix but how in the almighty fuck does a jfif ever pop up naturally in the wild?

>>229004 Twitter images for some god forsaken reason are all jfif.

>>229013 Must be a phone or browser-specific thing because I've been getting jpegs from twitter for years.

>>228698 2D isn't real, you are a retard, and chris chan will never be a woman. All three of these are very simple to grasp, and yet your loser ass is here posting cringe in some weird fruedian effort to shame your father.

>>228983 Oh christ, this schizo faggot is back.

So can any American please explain me why does this far left people fear Trump? He already was a president and basicly he don't touch any part of private life, and as I understand in USA even a Major can do they own rules. From a perspective of a normal citizen here is a small difference between the Trump and Camala which would affect just some economy things like a trade regulation with a China, some bills, etc. So why are they so much afraid of a made up shit about Trump? Like he will do a KKK trans cleansing or mass shootings or whatever. Who even told them this? Where they are even picking this delusions about USA presidents somehow can have a totally made up power to be a tiranical kings. Lack of school education?

>>228983 The real Kisame here, you're just a poor retarded faker who can't keep his dick in check. You're a shame to your ancestors, hang yourself

>>229032 Because of the potential to install people in to prominent positions of power who swear fealty to him over the concerns of an electorate. Representation goes out of the window when cronies serve their own ambitions and agendas over the will of the people. Some of those positions, like justices of the SCOTUS, will have long lasting consequences. Those loyal to Trump and pushing the Maga movement don't want to represent you, they want to rule you. To tell you what and how to think and who to blame for your problems.

>>229032 You're approaching this from a rational angle when most modern leftists could not be more out of touch with reality. Suicide baiting and throwing tantrums whenever you don't get what you want is also going to get you farther than it should.

>>229034 I am the real Kisame, and I am here to inform you that Trump is an honest buisnessman who worked for his money, like Abe Lincoln he could never tell a lie. He will save us. Heil Trump!

>>229032 While our most watched news network is right wing (and retarded), most are not along with a lot of our entertainment industry being stuck in solidly left wing parts of the country such as major cities in California or New York. So you get a lot of nonstop fearmongering from those types in the media. Couple that with the echo chamber issue the internet has along with sensationalism being encouraged to get views and you can kinda see how that leads to increasing polarization. I'm vastly oversimplifying things without getting into a big history lesson but those are pretty big modern factors

>>229032 It's actually really bad Trump is a racist who lies on a regular basis, was friends with Epstein for a decade, outright said that "Epstein was a great guy, and we both like women on the younger side", as well as allegedly sold child prostitutes out of Mar-ALago He's promising to deport millions of immigrants, and introduce a Tarriff on all goods coming in. Both of these are bad, so I don't think he will actually follow through with it. It would create job openings, but everything is going to be astronomically expensive when millions of workers suddenly get deported, along with other countries raising prices to make up for the taxes, so we wind up paying more since it costs more to get stuff. So I don't think it will actually be enacted but you never know until it happens. He claimed voter fraud and got his followers to storm the white house when he lost the last election. so he should be in jail for that alone. He's also putting an Anti-vaxxer in charge of the FDA. In principle banning additives to foods would be a good thing, but keep in mind RFK is an anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist. He's going after the wrong shit and I heard he was going to legalize Raw Millk. Raw Milk contains harmful bacteria that could literally kill you, but he's promising to go after food coloring. He attacked the white house

>>229107 Trump himself frustratingly isn't the issue. For one, he's such a pathological liar that it's genuinely unclear what of his policy claims are genuine or empty rhetoric. No one fucking knows. Secondly, many people are painting the guy as the next Hitler and I don't think that's accurate- the guy wants three things: 1) absolve himself of all wrong doing, 2) be seen as rich and powerful 3) play golf. The problem is that he's extremely biddable for those who pander to his ego and can make his life easier. It's the bad actors that Trump welcomes in to his inner circle and into cabinet positions that could cause unchecked problems for years down the line. Trumpism and MAGA republicans are essentially here to stay since it's been proven as a successful political strategy. If Trump was to disappear tomorrow, then things will stil largely play out the same way except with a new unknown and potentially far more capable entity with Vance taking the presidency. Trump isn't the problem, it's Trumpism.

>>229116 I honestly agree with most of what you said. I think peoples imagination as to what's going to actually happen is worse that what will actually transpire. I'm more worried about the fact that Trump is old. People like to give Biden shit for it, but Trump is starting to show his age, and I think it will make him easier to control by the bad actors you mentioned. I also believe he might not even make it another 4 years, I think he's going to be dead one way or another, and Vance will replace him. I also don't refer to Trump as a Nazi, because the only ideology he believes in is himself.

>>229107 >>229116 Kisame here, Trump won because normies don't care for the culture wars. Latinos supported the Donald cause they're tired of Americans obsessing over the culture wars and immigration instead of education. Republicans simply voted early, voted in mail, and on Election Day, which erased Harris advantage. Also, age isn't an issue cause old school NYers are workaholics. Biden got pushed out cause Democrats listened to Nate Silver and computer. Bazinga nerd doesn't care about you.

>>229118 Joe Biden isn't old. He knew Kamala Harris will lose to Trump. Silent Generation Joe knew how to destroy the personality of eggheads and make them seem small.

>>229032 Alright, my theory on one reason why Trump makes "lefties" AKA libs quake and writhe and seethe with anger to this extent is because of the one respectable thing about him: the fact that he can't keep his goddamn mouth shut. Presidents like Obama were able to wordsmith their way into being beloved Nobel Peace Prize winners while bombing a bunch of third world children, and history will look upon them in the future with kindness. Trump, on the other hand, "says it like it is" and makes no effort to hide his belligerent and vulgar nature. He'll outright say that he'll invade Syria for oil, admit that he's a puppet of ZOG, lets the whole world hear his hatred for illegal immigrants, he'd say everything if he didn't have handlers to muzzle him. From the start of the 2016 elections, Trump stomped his way into the White House and ripped the carefully maintained mask of American civility and morality clean off of Uncle Sam's face. The libs, who laser focus on preserving the optics of the status quo above all else, FUCKING LOATHE that shit. It's less about Trump being Literally Hitler for them, but moreso wanting a piece of the pie that Trump keeps swiping from them because people have seen through their hollow woke shit that doesn't address the working class and median voters concerns like the economy and getting an uncrappy house. The writing was on the wall when they "beat" Trump the first time to "Save Democracy", only for Biden to flail like a useless old man and demonstrate that they're just the same tired playbook in a blue coat instead of a red one. The Dems fucked up big time and made sure the people that didn't like Trump hated them even more, and changing course to have actual moral beliefs and drop the old dusty playbook doesn't align with their interests so they never learn. Tl;Dr: Trump as a president is the most honest embodiment of what America and its values actually are in recent history (which appeals to the majority of the little people), and an outdated party that brands itself with moral superiority and never sees itself at fault cannot cope, comprehend, or compute how an undeniable crook of a man completely stomps all over their tired and stale methods. THAT is why the average liberal malds on Twitter and starts blaming Latinos and Orange Man and whatever else for making them lose the election. They drop the hollow mask to reveal a truly vile soul, but never look inward to see themselves at fault and make a meaningful change to their strategy.

>>229169 I think you're confusing candour with tactlessness. It's not hard to say whatever is on your mind when there is much going on there to begin with. I do agree with you that he is an honest embodiment of what a majority of the electorate ostensibly want and where their values are. It's a pretty chilling sight all told.

>>229175 > when there *isn't much. Stupid fingers of mine.

>>229169 Trump is a narcissist and a conman. He's pretty dumb like around Sammy the Bull or Henry Hill and other mobsters. He applied for federal loans to build the slums while owning Lefrak, Starrett. His tastes are stuck in the 80s and 70s. I can only assume his rise is because Cuomo and Giuliani, and Adams are hated by the establishment more for being assholes notoriously hard to work with. His lesbo niece is despised more for being a carnival barker.

>>229025 Don't get caught staring at the local playground, creep, and try to keep Chris's dick out of your mouth while you're at it

What gets me is that with all the propagandists about - the Russian bots, the Russian plants and their warm water ports, the rightwing podcasts greased by Russian funds - you'd think that would've been a wake up call for patriots. On the contrary, so many just chose to swallow all the lies and drive their message home. So much for defending a nation, eh? You got played like chumps.

>>229238 The best thing about this entire election is that all the people like yourself who thinks that Russians are responsible for all the worlds evils will cry and shit yourself watching Trump force Zelensky to choke back tears and sign away the Donbass and Crimea to Russia. Russians only want to be left to manage their own business and they will never be a threat to America unless they decide to commit suicide and launch their nukes, which Putin and his cronies have no interest in doing because you can't enjoy caviar, corruption and summers at your dacha when you're inside a fallout bunker. It didn't take this shit show of a war to prove to anyone that all the POTUS would need to do is raise its eyebrow and Putin would cower like a dog. I'm sure you will seethe and call me a shill because I don't believe Moscow should be levelled and their first born sons sacrificed at the altar of Moloch.

>>229254 I didn't profess to any "world's evils" of the sort. And you've essentially stumbled onto the crux of the issue: >Russians only want to be left to manage their own business That business being to seeing a weakening of the US as a superpower - one that is more amenable to Russian interests, namely the removal of sanctions and non-involvment with continuing Russian activity within Europe. Do you really feel this was all about securing the Donbass region? Just gonna ignore the initial strike on Kyiv in the opening movements of their special operation, featuring a spearhead including special paramilitary police units like OMON and SOBR, meant to take and hold a seat of power and maintain peace while doing so? They thought that they could walk in and take it, so too were they looking to avoid a war and to resume enjoying their caviar.

>>229257 >Do you really feel this was all about securing the Donbass region? No, it was about removing Zelensky because he wanted to drag the Ukraine into NATO, Putin was completely fine with an independent Ukraine so long as it was buffer between them and the West. They were willing to help separatists in Russian majority areas because it benefited them, but there was never a time where they tried to extinguish Ukraine as an independent nation until it became very clear that they wanted to invite an enemy to Russia's doorstep. Russia has had one geopolitical aim since the time of Peter the Great, and that has been to create a buffer between itself and Europe. At times they have directly occupied Eastern Europe (the Russian Empire) at others they have created "allies" like the Communist nation on the Eastern side of the Iron Curtain. Up until the Euromaidan Protests, the Russian Federation was content with Belarus and political neutral Finland and the Baltic States. Zelensky, probably with the backing from the CIA who can't help meddling in these things, poked the bear and as a result we've had a war that's benefited nobody but America, which has walked out of this war untouched with its old enemy mauled, European manufacturing weakened and Europeans who had previously relied on America for their defense pushed into rearmament - mostly to the benefit of American arms manufacturers and America's budget. That the war has put Russia in a worst position than they started in was entirely a result of Putin's political and military incompetence, Russia definitely could have flattened Ukraine in three days if they hadn't made the oldest tactical blunder in the book and assumed that their enemies were incompetent cowards who would crawl into the fetal position like a beaten dog the moment they raised their fist. But anyone could have told you that this was coming. The Kremlin was very clear about it. Three hundred years of history was very clear about it. Political theorists on both sides made it very, very clear to everyone involved that Russia wants to keep Europe at arms breadth and will use force to keep it that way. There's one simple, underlying reason as to why the war started and it isn't part of some serial villain plan to weaken America, it was to make sure Russia had the buffer its always fought tough and nail for.

Some artist couldn't stay in their lane and just HAD to bitch about Trump, so I did a quick fix to improve this drawing.

>>229275 As much as artists are entitled to draw whatever they want, making something like that kind of was just asking for trouble, regardless of the political candidate it was praising or admonishing. Why, in a time when people have no shortage of divisive things to get mad about, would you make a drawing that is inherently divisive?

>>229275 God, I fucking hate Americans so much...especially troons. They never know when to shut up, do they?

>>229275 Yeah you can’t use art to express politics. What an insane idea. No one’s ever done that before trannies started doing it. Exactly the sort of crime that merits rape by 1000 niggers.

>>229292 >muh politics in art tho!!! Bro. this is BBW chan. I don't give a fuck about the change you want to see in the world, just put the fat women in the fucking bag. If I want to see political art, I can seek that out. I'm here for fap material.

>>227834 >They have a surprisingly regular amount of knee benders Personal experience?

>>229275 schizo. God forbid not everyone like the demented cheeto.

>>229292 Yeah obviously political art has a time and place but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want Mickey Mouse to complain about the unemployment rate when you're at Disneyworld, would you?

>>229292 Because EVERYONE wants to hear political ranting from from the fetish artist, right?

>>229275 Thank you

>>229223 That's extremely homophobic of you anon, genderfluid guydykes will take you in for correctthink training. >>229121 The nigger is older than baseball. >>229291 He's a tranny, demanding attention through any means possible is all he knows how to do. >>229292 Nice fruedian slip faggot lmoa

Anyone else feel that cancel culture, created a collective of people who just pretend to support the left?.

>>229337 Oh totally, the left is packed full of just as many grifters as the right is. This is why clown world blew up like it did: certain people saw the means to weaponize virtue signalling to silence those they despised like petty ex girlfriends.

bsky colonizers will not escape Samsara

>>229032 Years of brainwashing in college and the news media; to them, everyone right of Stalin is a fascist Nazi. >>229056 You say this after his picks in the supreme court refused his challenge over the election back in 2020. >>229071 >While our most watched news network is right wing (and retarded) Imagine seeing right wing supporters, independents, and pushed out democrats getting behind Trump and deciding it's a good idea to blatantly support the establishment during their debate, and cause your viewership to start dropping even closer to that of CNN and MSNBC.

>>229301 I don't like Trump either. I just think it's absolutely fucking retarded beyond belief to bitch about politics in a fucking BBW pinup drawing

>>229290 They like to pretend "the other" is some alien monster they can demonize when this time around, Trump literally got the popular vote. The side who voted for him is the majority. Echo chambers are a bitch

>>228667 What is that?

>>229340 I'm pretty sure that most by now have wisened up to it being an empty scam made up by libs to pretend they have moral character. I'll say this: the only thing people hate more than a racist is a racist that thinks they're smarter than you and act coy about it.