I honestly feel like age and the cumulative effects of being enormous for any extended period are the deciding factor. My wife was over 600 in her late 20’s and had zero mobility issues. She has WLS and got to the mid 300’s but has since gained back up to 460. She now has serious hip and knee issues (at 36), is pre diabetic and is less mobile than she was at over 600 6-7 years ago.

If you really want health, also long term, It's definetely below 400 Especially in the long run Obviously there's many factors One of the most important is How many ssbbw years has a woman I would say Like did she slowly grow there or has she been chubby/fat since childhood and 500+ lbs from 20 on or sth like that with her body doing overtime for a longer time already But I think that below 400 is where health wins, anything above will get you long term usually (more or less severe)

>>54334 >>54335 I think both of you are right. Age is a huge factor, and (overall, in very broad terms) staying below 400lbs is best for long term health >Like did she slowly grow there or has she been chubby/fat since childhood and 500+ lbs from 20 on or sth like that with her body doing overtime for a longer time already I think there is a third option here that would also be very bad for health: Being thin/normal up until age 18-25 and then ballooning to SSBBW status very quickly. Obviously that is rare but it does happen, not just with feedee models but also normal people. But obviously models are the best case studies we as coomers have. Mochi being the most obvious example. Although even being <400 can still be quite unhealthy. I had an ex who was about 5'8 and "only" about 350 and she had quite severe health problems. For example she had to get her gallbladder removed, and also her ankle just randomly snapped one day while walking down the street due to the amount of weight on it

No SSBBW will be perfectly healthy. Idc if people say they still mobile, or haven't had severe health problems yet, they are still unhealthy and being that big is not good in the long run. Yes everyone's bodies are different and some girls handle weight better than others. You can have severe weight issues if you like 250, but overall it's bad to be overweight.

>>54346 The hard truth

Something else that needs factoring in is muscle mass. When I was 20 I was lucky enough to date a girl who mega into gaining. I'd never dated someone so fat. She gained from like 375ish to the low 500lbs when I was with her and she put her gain down to doing weight training. She said it really helped her mobility and gave her a huge appetite, which in turn meant she packed it on. She was 21. Big difference being young. My wife was 320 when we met, was 365 when she moved in and got to 470 before she decided enough was enough and dieted and exercisesd back to 300., no issues at all until 420isj. Early 30s in age..

>>54346 Yup, it varies. My wife hit 310 and the health issues start to pile up quickly. Skin issues and mobility issues whereas she had none at 290. Every body has a different threshold.

It depends on the person but I am going to go with the conservative value of around ~300lbs. That seems to be a number that most of the population can sustain into retirement pretty comfortably. Plus you can live a pretty normal life, travel and not be helpless at that size. You won't be winning marathons but who really cares. Under 300lbs seems to be were people really get more worried about aesthetics then quality of life.

Lol people's estimates are way too high like 200-250 is the sweet spot before lifestyle and health issues become a prominent problem. I still love a 300+ lber but there are undeniable issues that arise at those sizes. Imo anything above 400 is too much for real life

It's not about numbers, there are too many variables for that. There's a sharp upward curve above 32 BMI where health problems are far more common — that's why "obesity" is a medical term and not a judgement. Of course there are outliers who are shockingly healthy at 50, or an invalid at 28, but BMI is about averages. Good genes can be an amazing buffer against all kinds of bad habits.

>>54386 No there’s really not. There’s not clinical relationships that aren’t easily explained by covariates. Increased morbidity increases nearer to a BMI of 40 than the cutoff for obesity. Obese women are typically as long living and healthy as skinny women (from the same social economic brackets).

Shouldn't we be factoring how these women pushed themselves to this size? I'd figure a woman who's naturally big would be somewhat healthier than a woman who's forced herself to be supersized like the models do

The original question was about at what point they develop health problems that affect day-to-day functions, especially in regards to SSBBW modeling. Obviously anyone who is obese will have SOME kind of health problems. It comes with being extremely fat. But from what we have observed in models, what's the range where it becomes a problem for their modeling; when they don't update regularly anymore, can barely stand up, need a scooter, etc, eventually leading to WLS.

>>54333 The honest answer is basically any weight when a person's BMI is over 35. But if you did hypothetically find what is the highest manageable under near ideal circumstances such as someone who was female, didn't have diabetes, exercised daily, and had a weight distribution that kept a large portion of the adipose tissue in the butt or thighs where the heart can handle better then probably 450lbs, max. Declining by 1-2lbs for each year of age over 20. You could probably also add an extra 1-2lbs for each inch of height the woman is under 6ft, since being taller also does put more strain on the heart, and generally will suffer less joint issues so being shorter actually could beneficial for maximizing the heaviest a woman could realistically be. That is just my arbitrary best guess because I have been pondering this for a decade now and just am kind of going off of what I saw. If a person is bed bound or immobile due to obesity then basically just no. But I am kind of factoring this around a best ideal situation which rarely exists. I guess if you don't have good genetics or diabetes but are still trying to have her exercise and not eat the worst foods possible then probably around 325lbs, max. I am not saying that nothing bad will happen when someone does match these, but the farther a SSBBW get away from the hypothetical goldylocks zone its really obvious that their health issues become worse at a much faster rate, they get sick more often, they maybe dont upload as frequently, and sometimes just seem to age more rapidly. Like it really does seem like some of the 700lb+ models almost seem to age physically at almost twice the normal rate.

>>54395 We're all FAs here so no judgments against the objects of our admiration but your assertion is a HAES/SA cope. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/648604

>>54395 Yeah that is bullshit if we are talking about cardiovascular, skeletal, and endocrinal health. Somethings may plateau, but the basic chemistry and physics behind some of the health issues don't stop at a magical weight. Past 550lbs, a person is basically guaranteed to develop heart disease at some point just because the human heart does have an upper limit for how much of a person it can support. It will expand and get larger, once there is no more room for the heart to expand it will begin to thin out to keep increasing the volume of blood it can supply to the body, once the thinning process begins it is basically the early stages of heart disease and circulation issues, irregular heart beat, and an increase in the risk of a heart attack or stroke will grow with each passing week. Also our bones can only support around 205mpa of longitudinal force and 131mpa of transverse force for a person with ideal skeleton health. Which a housebound SSBBW/USSBBW just wouldn't have. With the increased weight it becomes so much easier for one wrong step to cause life changing joint issues or out right break a bone. Even though the skeleton can get slightly thicker as people get bigger (literal big boned), its not really going be that significant in compensating for the extra 300 to 600lbs of fat some of the bigger models have on them.

>>54333 It is very much genetics and lifestyle based. If you have the wrong genetics, being overweight or obese will kill you faster. Exercising is huge. Many active fat people are in better shape than inactive people in a normal weight range. If you drink alcohol, smoke, or do hard drugs that will impact your health as well. Sleep habits also matter, and what you eat matters as well. A girl fattened solely on fast food will be much worse off than one who got there on avocado toast and lasagna. All that said, from what I've observed in models, the range of where problems will definitely happen is as low as 300 and as high as 600. On average I would say 350-400 is maintainable by most bottom heavy women. Apple shape is generally terrible for heart health. Being 200 could be dangerous for a short apple shaped woman. What is certain is that nobody was meant to be over 600 lbs. Even someone who won the genetic lottery, eats quality food, and stays active will start having problems in that range. The perfect example is Boberry. She's probably fine around 600, but even back in her Bigcutie days she was having skin issues creeping up over 600. Being around or over 700lbs. is a death sentence for everyone, regardless of all other factors. Pics are of Boberry at her biggest with Bigcuties. Some people want her at 700lbs. but it would not be pretty. That redness and irritation on her legs would turn to flaking skin.

>>54646 >With the increased weight it becomes so much easier for one wrong step to [...] out right break a bone. This happened to my ex. She was walking down the street and her ankle just randomly snapped. She was 5'8" and 400lbs. She was definitely big, don't get me wrong, but I didn't think "only" 400lbs was enough for that to happen until it did.

I’m in no way a dietician nor will I pretend to be but it is an interesting question. Something I think about a lot in regards to a question like this is athletes who intentionally gain weight as part of their regiment like powerlifters and sumo wrestlers. These are big as fuck people with lots of body fat but they still exercise a lot and don’t seem to suffer as a result. Do you think muscle mass can affect how much fat someone can carry since stronger muscles probably won’t have as much of an issue packing it all around? Especially if you follow a diet with lots of fattening but nutrient rich foods like meat and dairy and certain veggies.

>>57029 You also have to take into account that of all the models over 600lbs, BoBerry is the LEAST likely to disclose any sort of issues she may or may not be having. Not that I think she's a ticking time bomb or she's not as active as she purports to be; we see she's active enough to enjoy international vacations and with all of the high-end food posts she doesn't just sit around eating McDonald's. But health play and morbidity chat? That's never been her style. I would say the first time she shows any crack at how unhealthy she is, aside from mobility struggles, will be the last time she shows that side of her. She wants to give off this impression of being glamorous like an influencer, and insulin shots are anything but.

sweat spot is 1800 ponds lmao

>>54382 Agree on this. I was always favorable of 300s but have realized 200-250 really seems to be the most sustainable sweet spot

The only real answer here is that it depends on age (and height, a lot of people seem to be putting hard weight numbers on it instead of relating it to bmi or body fat percentage which is just... sure, retards). Sadly if you want to maintain health you will need to be less fat as you get older. Someone can handle being close to Tara's age 18 weight when they're just 20 years old (she's even fatter now, of course, she's at a weight where no one is okay). It won't destroy your knees in just a few months to have a BMI of 100, and your organs are still regenerating too quickly to impact you. By 25 your body will be breaking down from that much weight, unless you do a LOT of muscle-building. If you assume a relatively sedentary life, you will have major issues unless you're down to a BMI of like 80 by then. The BMI that your body can handle without destroying itself will pretty much go down by 10 every 5 years after that until you go under 40. Anyone can more or less handle a BMI of 39, lots of healthy & active grandmas do that shit, people drastically overestimate how large the cutoff for "morbidly obese" is. For reference, on a 5'2" woman, a BMI of 39.9 is just 218 pounds. If you wanna live to 80, that's pretty much where you have to cap off by age 55. A BMI of 50 at age 50 is pretty manageable, especially if you grew up fat. But any extra strain on your organs takes an increased toll on you as you get older.

>>57632 i think some of it is genetic too