>>62019 >They apparently got a an interview with pinkbubblepig aka Geparke. >young women (including Geparke) who were manipulated into doing feede content. I would be curious to see what she says, although she is notorious for lying. For example she infamously faked having cancer at one stage. I'm not calling her a liar for being a "fake feedee" and running off with the money, that's just standard lol. Although given how her "career" supposedly started, I have to wonder if she actually kept any of the money. I have no idea if it's true, but I heard a rumour that the person who manipulated her into doing feedee content was an older woman? Supposedly this woman was a "madame of the brothel"/Ghislaine Maxwell-esque character. It seems plausible given that Geparke was young, recently emigrated from Poland to Germany, and lived in a house with a bunch of other young influencers/OF girls. Even though she did this interview, I think Geparke is someone we will never know the truth about, because there are so many rumours and lies, many of them coming from herself.

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>>62026 Interesting. I always found Geparke to be one of the easiest Germans to understand because she speaks slow and clear without a weird accent, I guess her being an immigrant explains it partially.

>>62026 Since this all is kinda long I'll start today off by posting the Geparke lore and creepy Tinder guy who "groomed" her into feedism as she says Geparke aka Pinkbubblepig story as by her own description: - Fat since childhood => binge eating disorder => extremly low self-esteem - Meets creepy manipulative feeder on Tinder - Tinder guy gives her attention => Touches her belly on the first date => she does not know what to think of this at first - Tinder guy starts buying her fast food and stuff - Tinder guy tells her about curvage and pressures her into doing feede content - He manages the curvage and pockets 50% of the winnings => writes stuff like "gaining to immobility" in the content description, which she only learned after the fact (aka she never wanted to be remotely close to immobile) - She never really liked being a feede just craved attention from her feeder => never liked being called pig etc.; but her fans can't really be blamed as Tinder guy made it seem like she was the one running the account and heavily playing into this fetish stuff - Eats 10k+ kCals per day quite often => gains nearly 30kg/66lbs in 4 months => admits that she is partly to blame in this as she let him do this to her, as she was madly in love with Tinder guy - Timelines is a bit unclear here: - Gets STD from Tinder guy - Friends talk to her and make her realize how toxic he is - They have a messy fight and break up - After the breakup other women started contacting her that they also were groomed into feedism by Tinder guy => two of these get interviewed later Unrelated to feedism mostly: - Starts fake bullshit TikTok "relationship" with other fat German TikToker @ehrenmannrius - She gets his name tattooed - They fake a pregnancy together - She appears in tons of "funny" TikToks which look very degrading and make it seem that she is being used for content by her TikTok "bf" - She does seem body positive and like she could laugh about hate comments about her body => says she was fooling herself and deep down hated her looks - Gets WLS in Turkey with the help of Polish-born rapper @schwestaewa and documents the WL journey on TikTok ever since Tinder guy Victim #2 (fat girl with black hair): - Was 17 with low self-esteem when he approached her - He made her take vids of herself smoking and promised no one from the Berlin area would see her pics => false claim - Tried to make her go further (presumably more risky feede stuff) but she didn't want to - She demands that he deletes the content => finds out one year later that although promised everything is still online Tinder guy Victim #3 (skinny??? girl with colorful): - Approached by Tinder guy to send him videos as customers demand it => Tinder guy takes a whopping 60% - Does i.e. Pizza eating vids on demand and sends them to Tinder guy - Tinder guy promises anonymity and no direct contact with customers => Feeder somehow gets her address and sends her over a package containing a funnel and some food stuff => She gets scared and quits - Demands content takedown => Tinderguy wants to close the account and send her her cut of the money still inside the account => She does not want any money and thus does not provide banking info All in all with 3 witnesses to this guy and screenshots provided by all of the women (including Geparke) I find her story kinda believable. What however was not touched on is the fact that she played into the feede stuff on video so it's not only his curvage post/video description that would have led ppl to believe she's really into all this... Also from my standpoint, all of her post WLS content on TikTok including her feedism story she told on TikTok and her apology for faking the pregnancy seem genuine. She also claims to have BPD which might have led to some of her weird behavior. Since this post is allready hella long I'll post my generall thoughs about the documentary and more contents (including the interview with an actuall IRL feeder) tomorrow.

>>62043 There's a lot to address here but I'll just say that I remember the bullshit "relationship" with the fat tiktok guy. I actually remember thinking that he was remarkably ugly compared to her; in other words, she could've done a lot better. I must have misrembered her faking cancer; I guess that was the fake pregnancy. I never heard about her getting WLS in Turkey although that 100% makes sense and I 100% believe it. I mean, how else could she lose so much weight so quickly? No idea where that story about the woman manipulating her into feedism came from. But the real story (assuming it's real) is just as bad. All in all, I feel like a bit of a dickhead for calling her a liar. But OTOH the fake pregnancy thing is fucked up. And if she does have BPD, I'm still gonna be skeptical about everything she says, especially keeping in mind the fake pregnancy. All in all she seems like a fat girl who got chewed up and spit out by the world of social media, in both of the ways that social media exploits fat girls (feedism porn and "ironic"/"funny" fatphobic tiktoks)

Y-Kollektiv is woke government propaganda. I'd rather trust Friedrich Merz than them.

>>62046 Yeah, so about the cancer story...She did say she had cancer on TikTok but that was in her crazy bopo pre-WLS phase, so who really knows...?? >>62057 As a fellow German I'm very well aware of this, but since there is almost no mainstream stuff on feedism out there, I figured I'd give this a watch. Since they are financed by the government and run by radiobremen I am contemplating writing them a long E-Mail full of criticism/feedback about misrepresenting the community as a whole. Any thoughts?? Now as promised here's the rest of the stuff from the documentary. Reporter goes incognito on feabie: 1. Joins feabie as a "feede" with pictures edited with a fat face filter 2. Post something about wanting to gain 3. Gets tons of messages from feeders 4. Weirded out by all the postive messages reaffirming her weight 5. Pretends she is unsure if she really wants to gain, as she is unsure about the negative health effects => Tries to get something like "You're totally right about the health risks, I've never thought of it that way" out of the men on feabie; which obviously doesn't happen 6. Some excerpts from various text chats: 1. Feeder admits to making his ex-gf gain from 130kg up to 210kg in 2 years => ex-gf gets WLS and they split up 2. I like it when a woman goes from attractive to unattractive 1. Reporter notes: 1. This is very problematic as this effectively means the feede becomes dependent on her feeders approval/praise 3. I am scared about health problems => Don't you worry. I've designed a special program for my girls which I like to call 'fit & fat'. It's a combination of fattening and sport (mainly swimming). 1. Reporter notes: 1. Suggesting that it would be completely harmless to gain weight if you go swimming from time to time is total bs and very dangerous. IRL Feeder 1. Does not show his face for privacy reasons 2. Agrees to meet at a hotel room he rented for a session with a feede 3. They both go grocery shopping for his upcoming feeding session 4. Items bought include: 1. chocolate milk 2. Nutella biscuits 3. chocolate cake 4. Vanilla ice cream 5. Grocery store total 6k+ kCal 6. Some of the questions he got asked at the grocery store: 1. Piggy eats cake on all fours scenario - Would you fuck her with cake crumbs all over her mouth? => Yes, while she is on all fours and eats the cake I would giver her doggy. 2. Would you wish for her to be able to eat more food? => No, not really. She's already high up there and can eat a ton. 7. Trip to McDonald's to buy feedes special requests: 1. 1 * Big Rösti 2. 2 * Chicken Burger 3. 2 * Mayo 8. Grand total 8k+ kCal 9. Pre-session interview: 1. Feeder statements / Anwsers: 1. At some point, it becomes an inner urge to act on this IRL. At some point, you just can't suppress your kink/fetish anymore. 2. He noticed he liked this fetish with his first girlfriend. He likes the act of feeding someone/watching them eat, but also the wg progression that comes after. 3. What exactly is it that you like about wg? Just the girth of the growing body or also the fact that you know you played a part in her gain? 1. Both. Definitely the fact that I caused this weight gain trough feeding, but I also really find curves on women attractive/feminine. 4. Does power play a role in this for you? 1. Yes, definitely. I believe when it comes to sex it's always about power. 2. Interviewer notes: He thinks with sex there is always a dominant and a submissive party. In his relationship, he is the dominant part. Theoretically, dominant feedes do exist but it's still always the feede that gains. 5. I am at peace with it because I know she also likes it and I don't force her or do it secretly. I am 100% sure she consents to this. 6. Interviewer notes: Yes you could say that, but it is still a very unbalanced dynamic with one partner gaining the weight and potentially suffering from health problems. What would you say to this? 1. She does this fully knowing that as everybody knows obesity/being overweight does come with health risks. The feedes that I had all knew this and in some cases found this attractive. I've had feedes who wanted to get health problems and thus knew what I was doing to them. 7. One topic that comes up often is Immobility. Do you find this attractive/hot? 1. Only as a fantasy, I wouldn't want to live this lifestyle IRL. This aspect of "she's so fat she can't move and me having to bring her food" is what attracts me to the idea. The body...meh. I am torn on the body...someone immobile looks kinda gross sometimes. 2. Interviewer notes: This is where my ears perk up: Even though I really appreciate his honesty, this shows that he is primarily concerned about his own wellbeing and does not care/feel responsible for the health of his feede. 2. Interviewer comments: 1. Fetishes themselves are no problem, as long as they don't cause any suffering or bring harm to uninvolved third parties. With consensual feeding, this is a grey area. 2. One has to note: Also consensual harm harms the person. In the worst cases, those effects last a lifetime. My feeling: Because the interviewed Feeder has this fetish himself, his view on the topic is skewed. 3. Secretly fattening someone without their knowledge and/or consent: 1. Feeder #2 (phone interview) 1. Talks about tactics like: 1. Making a person believe their clothes must have shrunken in the wash 2. Making their favorite dish often, to make them eat more 3. Adding heavy cream to home-cooked meals 4. Feede short off cam Interview: 1. Claims she can't have sex anymore without being fed 2. If you gain more weight you can get health problems, what is your opinion on that? => If I start getting out of breath after 3 flights of stairs, I wouldn't care. 3. Is currently only being fed by Max (the Feeder in the Documentary), but is looking for more feeders. 4. Gained 8kg/~18lbs in the last 3 months 5. Morning after-session interview: 1. How was it? => It was really nice actually. We got to do pretty much everything we planned for the evening. 2. Did you get through all the food? => We nearly made it. I believe only half the ice cream is left over, as she had a mild stomach ache last night, so we took it slow. Some things mentioned throughout/the final conclusion: 1. Feeders are mostly men, men of which most are manipulative jerks who don't care one bit about the health and wellbeing of their feede 2. Feedes are oftentimes helpless victims to the mastermind of a manipulative feeder who does nothing short of a Loverboy scam on them, to try and convince them to cross personal boundaries when it comes to wg 3. Feedism is very unbalanced as only the feede gains weight and gets health issues. Also sexist(??) because most feeders are male Notable comments across various social media Platforms: 1. Creepy Tinder guy another encounter?? 1. Fellow fat German TikTok girl @leooshaaaa => THANK GOD that I met with "Louis"(Tinder guy; name changed) IRL once...something about him seemed off in person.... (which saved her from persuGermaning anything with him) 2. How come Geparke makes it seem like she's the sole victim in all this?? 3. They feed them till they die 🤮 4. I once had a feeder as my bf. I did not know this back then, but I always found it weird how he always wanted to have sex with me after I had eaten and was full. After I noticed this I left him. 5. Wow, I've never heard anything about this. I know this lady (Geparke) from Instagram. 6. Geparke has made so much positive progress. She is such a lovely woman 7. This is so disgusting 8. Oh, how relieved I am to see how much better her life is right now 9. Everybody does what he likes 😂 10. Do female feeders exist? I only see men doing this. 11. This was Geparke, right? 👀 12. Geparke is the perfect example of why one shouldn't play this down and treat it like a "normal" fetish, even when the woman "wants this herself". I don't want to be prejudiced but this documentary reaks of downplaying and problematic stuff. I am however open to be shown otherwise when the documentary gets released on YouTube. 13. Imagine we (as a society) do this with animals to later slaughter and eat them 14. Why did this instantly remind me of the taylor who makes custom clothes for his very large wife? (He’s talking about @alin_up and @curvemaria, who is constantly accused of being her feeder husband) 15. One must once again ask himself if this is really that widespread, that it would make sense to make a documentary on this topic. Obviously, this will get lots of views since it's totally extreme/nuts. But I have to ask myself if government-financed media should cover a certain topic only because of views. 16. The subjects (on this yt channel) are getting more and more absurd 17. Obviously, this is dangerous. But the same goes for alcohol consumption, smoking or extreme sports. Let everyone do as they please 🤷♂️ Sorry, it took so long, but rewatching parts and trying to translate them into English takes some time... Feel free to discuss!

>>62129 >Yeah, so about the cancer story...She did say she had cancer on TikTok but that was in her crazy bopo pre-WLS phase, so who really knows...?? Aha! I knew I wasn't misremembering; she did say it. Who knows indeed? >I am contemplating writing them a long E-Mail full of criticism/feedback about misrepresenting the community as a whole. Any thoughts?? I don't think that's a good idea but I do think it would be funny. Once again there is a lot here but I'll just give my thoughts on a few points. >Pretends she is unsure if she really wants to gain, as she is unsure about the negative health effects => Tries to get something like "You're totally right about the health risks, I've never thought of it that way" out of the men on feabie; which obviously doesn't happen This is hilarious. >I like it when a woman goes from attractive to unattractive What an odd thing to say. I know it's not unheard of, but still. I think most of us would agree that it's the other way around, going from unattractive (skinny) to attractive (fat). >Is currently only being fed by Max (the Feeder in the Documentary), but is looking for more feeders. This is interesting because Max (if I'm understanding this correctly) says that they do have a sexual relationship beyond just feeding. I wonder how he feels about her looking for other sexual partners? >Feeders are mostly men, men of which most are manipulative jerks who don't care one bit about the health and wellbeing of their feedee On one hand I think this is a negative stereotype, but on the other hand I think it is a stereotype with some truth behind it. I am reminded of all the sexist comments I've seen on this forum. Honestly I'm not sure if the "toxic" feeders are the majority of feeders, or just a vocal minority. I don't think there's any way to find out for sure. >Feedees are oftentimes helpless victims to the mastermind of a manipulative feeder who does nothing short of a Loverboy scam on them, to try and convince them to cross personal boundaries when it comes to wg I think this is a bit extreme / a bit of an exaggeration, but again there is some truth behind it. I think it is a problem with men in general not respecting women's boundaries / being pushy about sex, which is exacerbated when you add this fetish to the mix. On the subject of "manipulation", it's important to remember (as in the Geparke story) that many of these girls have low self esteem and only gain weight because they want to please their partner, so again, there is some truth to this. In other words, there often is a power imbalance. >Feedism is very unbalanced as only the feedee gains weight and gets health issues. Honestly this is hard to argue with. The only argument I can think of is that the feeder has to pay for the food and (ideally) care for their feedee if/when health/mobility problems happen, but I think that is an admittedly flimsy argument. >Also sexist(??) because most feeders are male You might be surprised but this is actually a pretty common argument. From Wikipedia's article on fat fetishism/feederism: "According to The Routledge Companion to Beauty Politics, "the gendered, raced, and classed power dynamics of many of these subcultures often mirror, reinforce, and even exaggerate existing racial, gender, class, and sexual inequalities." Sociologist Abigail C. Saguy has proposed that by objectifying women's weight, they are reinforcing the cultural importance of women's weight to their physical appearance, therefore also reinforcing gender inequality." A bit too "woke speak" for me, but I can understand the point they're making (even if I don't fully agree with it). My final conclusion / personal thoughts on the documentary: This is about what I expected, honestly. I think we all need to remember that this is how most of society sees us. It's hard to argue with the reality that being fat and gaining weight is inherently unhealthy. That is just facts and logic (and not in the bullshit Ben Shapiro meaning of that phrase). When someone presents us with that logic, we don't have a logical counterargument because there isn't one. Our feelings aren't based on logic, they are based on what makes our dicks hard. However what most of these documentaries ignore/downplay is that "it takes two to tango", so to speak. In many cases these relationships are also driven by the "illogical" feelings from the woman too. But it is easier to present a sensationalist narrative where the men are the villains and oppressors. However it might be easier to present that narrative because these men might actually very well be the majority in our community, or at the very least a vocal minority. So there might be some truth to it. Also I think that while male feedees and LGBT feedists do exist, our community has become very much dominated by heterosexual male feeders and female feedees (and I think the former greatly outnumber the latter, but that's another conversation) so I am not surprised that this documentary only presents this perspective, nor am I surprised by the viewers' comments to that effect. I will admit my bias as a slim heterosexual man who is attracted to fat women and has zero interest in fat men or fat transsexuals, though. Finally my personal thoughts on this community and my personal experiences with this lifestyle: I am one of those people who struggles with the "morality" of this kink. I identify as an FA rather than a feeder, but I am still aroused by feedism as a fantasy, and I do watch feedism porn. I have dated plenty of fat women but I don't know if I would ever have a serious, real feedist relationship. The closest thing I have personally experienced is that I have dated some women who were very fat but adamantly refused to lose weight (even at significant risk to their health), and their attitude was that they were grateful that I wouldn't force them to lose weight.

This entire documentary reeks of confirmation bias. True there is a health aspect to gaining weight, but the same could be said about anything. As for "are there female or LGBT feeders", of course there is, but that wasn't the narrative that the documentary wanted to push.

I guarantee this feeder guy has a shit ton of money. Women will do anything for money or objects. They don’t give a shit if a guy is an asshole or extremely ugly. Women are all about materialism. All these women are acting like victims as if they had no idea they were gaining weight. What bullshit

>>62143 I feel like you've made a great point about certain types of feeders being very vocal. While I am also not a feeder myslef, I feel that as an enjoyer of feedism content, this sheds a very bad light on the community as a whole. >>62146 I would be very interested in how they handle things money-wise. Does he just buy her food for IRL feeding sessions? Does he then pay to feed her/have sex with her? If she was really into feedism she should be glad that someone is willing to play into this and sponsor some feedings, right...? Does he gift her any other money? So here are some of my personal thoughts/critiques on the documentary: 1. I don't think it is possible to discuss feedism outside of fat fetish. Not every FA has a feedism/feeder kink, but I'd argue that pretty much any feeder is also an FA. The documentary didn't touch on this at all, which might not sound that bad, but from my findings, FA's often get confused with feeders (often with death feedism kinks) by people who only ever heard the term feedism and never bothered to look into fat fetish stuff any further. Such a brief analysis would also show that many men who enjoy feedism content do have some sense of morality and would either never feed someone IRL/only sponsor stuffings online, know how to respect set boundaries of their feede, and have a committed relationship with their feede (unlike Tinder creep). 2. They don't make any distinction between feedism and feederism. With feedism, as to my understanding, you don't necessarily need a feeder and mostly gain the weight all by yourself (except for monetary help, selling content etc.). This would then bring to light the existence of solo female feedes who feed themselves in order to gain weight for their own pleasure rather than those looking for praise from their feeder. 3. While female feeders might be pretty uncommon male feedes I feel like, are not the kind of unicorns they are made out to be by the documentary. I mean just look at coomer posts including popular feedism words like "weigh(-in), bloat, stuffing, kcal/calorie etc." and see how many male creators pop up. 4. As they did not mention anything about fat fetishes they missed an opportunity to talk about other feedism-related kinks which are far safer in terms of health problems like: food play, bloating/inflation, padding/roleplay, burping, vore, amazon fetish/domination, squashing, trampling etc. The last ones also challenge another idea perpetuated by the Feeder being interviewed, which is that the feeder is always the dominant part. For things like squashing, humiliation stuff etc. this simply doesn't hold true. Although admittedly making someone obese to an unhealthy degree and their physical strength being attached only to their mass is a shaky argument. 5. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I would have touched on feedism stuff without the intent of further wg. So idk if this is a thing among feeders but it would seem like a pretty safe way to at least sometimes indulge in this kink but to just limit the number of stuffing sessions and keep day-to-day food consumption at a normal level to maintain weight. 6. The documentary showed mostly negative examples of "feedism gone wrong" all of which were started by the exact same creepy Tinder guy. Geparkes example being particularly bad with the rapid wg. While in reality, rapid wg stays a fantasy even for most feeders. 7. They did not touch on closeted feeders/FA's who are either morally conflicted on the topic or are in fear of social judgment by their friends and family. 8. Another huge missing piece to this is the use of feeder as an inflationary hurtful term towards all FA's who just prefer fat women. A good example on this is @alin_up who recently married @curvemaria. He often gets called out as her feeder, to the point where youtube creators have dedicated entire videos talking about their problematic relationship and his obvious feeder tendencies, he must surely hide from the camera. 9. Terms like chubby, BBW, SSBBW, USSBBW, and immobile were not introduced in order to try and reduce feedism to its most extreme form. I was actually surprised they did not mention death feedism. 10. The overwhelming idea of "I don't understand this attraction to fat bodies, so there must be something wrong with men who like fat women" was a recurring theme throughout the documentary. This is especially bizarre when compared to this woke bopo agenda which tries to penalize men who "don't date fat women" which contrasts sharply with the hate many FA's get about "he just likes me for my body/he fetishizes my body". Like wtf is wrong with today's society...? Obviously, I like my partner for her body...dafuq?!?! 11. Women were portrayed as unknowing victims to feedism, which seems pretty anti-feminist.

>>62154 @ 10 and 11: People who still try to criticize woke statements for their inconsistency should finally wake up: For them, it's not about truth, it's about power and nothing else than power, and being able to push people into believing in several irreconcilable thoughts at once is the highest form of power, cf. "1984". Those people are evil and insane. Don't try to argue with them, just pay them their €18.36 and otherwise keep clear of them.

>>62154 @ #2 - My understanding was that feederism and feedism are the same thing, it's just that feedism is the term preferred by some people because it implies a more equal relationship between the feeder and feedee (again, this is on the Wikipedia page for feederism). I think if a person is just gaining weight by themselves without a feeder being involved, they can call themselves a feedee, but personally I would just call this an autosexual weight gain fetish. @ #3 - True, but the male feedism community is very gay-dominated, and this doesn't fit with the narrative they were trying to push. Furthermore I think heterosexual female feeders are much rarer than heterosexual (or bisexual) male feedees. @ #7 - I know I'm repeating myself and stating the obvious, but they didn't include this because it didn't fit with their narrative. Also refer to my earlier comment that this documentary basically accurately reflects how normies see us, which is its raison d'être. It was clearly made by and for woke normies. In this narrative there is no room for sympathy with feeders. @ #9 - I am also surprised that they didn't mention death feedism. I find that ironic because the documentary seems to deliberately conflate feedism with death feedism. And honestly, for a lot of normies, there is no difference between the two. Come to think of it, the lack of distinction in the documentary is probably intentional rather than oversight. @ #10 - I think >>62160 is being a bit hyperbolic (I don't think woke people are necessarily evil nor power-hungry) but he does have a point. It's a pretty clear case of cognitive dissonance. I could say a lot about this, but I'll try to keep it brief. In my personal IRL experience (not just talking about hypotheticals or people talking rubbish on forums), most fat women want to have a boyfriend who'll "love them for who they are" without fetishizing them. But for them the bar for what constitutes "being fetishized" is often extremely low, to the point that (from an FA's perspective) they are essentially uncomfortable with men finding them attractive at all. The "correct" way to date fat women according to this woke worldview is to be *completely* agnostic about their fat. You're not allowed to like it or dislike it.

>>62174 The thing I started to notice about those plus size activist chicks, the ones trying to monopolize the victim mentality, dont want anything to do with the FA community most of the time. They want to be uncluded into the mainstream modelling scene and been seen as activists while the woke crowd cheers them on, shunning the people who legitimately find them attractive for fetishizing them. What they are focussed on are the men who Arent attracted to them because of their weight because if they cant complain about mainstream society, then they cant be victims, and if they cant be victims, they cant be activists.

>>62174 >2 I think the autoerotic part of feedism is often overlooked on purpose, because it takes away the simplified understanding of how this sexuality works. Which is too bad, because I think it’s way more interesting, going into how female bodies are judged and reclaimed in the process, the rebellious nature of being a feedee, and the idea that a woman could be inviting her partner into something of her own. >10 I don’t think it’s fair for (vanilla) women to expect men to find them attractive but also not have any feelings about how they present. That being said, it’s the natural product of years of mixed messaging to women about their bodies coming from different corners of society. Believe me, it sucks for the women even more than the men.