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robot001 had some great inflation art at one point and now….its utter garbage

I've literally said that I don't like Cross Crescent's modern art. I cannot realistically tell who's OC is what cause it looks the same. If it wasn't for the hat, I wouldn't be able to recognize Bolette. I am sure Riddle's August's art deteriorated.

I've also been upfront Ilikapie's art is bad due to the lack of color and drawing adults 3 heads tall. I thought conservatives wanted to copy Disney's technicolor and not Terrytoons

>>99776 >>99777 Oh hey Kisame

>>99798 Too busy trying to make sense of the talking skulls in my dreams to care about the community

>>99798 What do these preg artists want from me? I am dizzy from my medication to make them their art.

I would say Alorok, or now lushaani, in past really good inflation art, now furries abominations

>>99819 My psychosis prevents me from taking adult entertainers seriously as I like expansion as a concept disconnected from reality.

TheNeverWere. They were decent at first,, but then they started dickriding RidiculousCake to the point their stuff started to look like Cake's.

>>99777 Didn't pie ragequit after the Pinocchio pic?

>>99776 >>99777 >>99810 >>99815 >>99819 >>99820 Ignore him

>>99839 There have unironically been times where I confused the two. It's a little ridiculous at this point.

>>99848 Ilikapie kept impersonating Kisame17 and other artists while tweeting conspiracies. He deleted cause he has a girlfriend who didn't like the pornography he made

I am not saying that the art quality got worse, but the ideas - Mabo. His art is now less kinky or sex driven than it was maybe 5 or more years ago. Some old sketches were insanely jerk worthy, land now it is just garbage.

>>99849 I am on new medication and even I don't understand how the quality of inflation art got worse. I guess they got rid of the autism and cringe but it exposes how artists are all one trick ponies.

>>99922 Cartooning will always be a hobby that people do out of boredom. Like the heavy metal boobs were drawn cause the artist was bored. Artists are just getting older and conservative.

>>99920 >Ilikapie kept impersonating Kisame17 You got that backwards chuck. Hell the only time Pie ever gets mentioned is when Kisame is on another rant.

>>99926 No. Ilikapie is still impersonating Kisame17. He got laughed out of X for using his own characters to tweet pro-1/6 conspiracies or whatever libertarian views

I'll throw my ring into that sidkid hat. He made one of the sexiest blueberry comics of all time (the uncharted one), everything after that has been mediocre. That was very long ago, too.

I don't mean to offend everyone as Kisame17 but we live in a police state where extra vigilant helicopter parents are calling the cops on the school board and the school board are using the connections to the federal government to report extremists in their districts.

PuffPoff. Art style was perfect years ago, now it's all tumblr triangle noses, sharp lines and ugly characters with piercings and shit

care to shar an art comparison for the fun of it?

Waifu inflator (now Androidinflator) refuses to draw anymore inflation art because he hated all of his past drawings. He's only been uploading inflation edits of some very very niche vroid ocs that belong to someone else. Subjectively I think the vroid inflation edits look worse than his drawings.

>>99764 I still enjoy some of what sidkid does but lately half of it is granny porn or weird bumpy stretch mark vore/pregnancy stuff. He also stops drawing feet on his spherical inflations. Once they get to a certain size they just don't have feet even when the angle would make sense.

While I wouldn’t say he got “worse”, Raikovjaba’s stuff was way more interesting when they were post-edited renders like pic related, he only does 2D art now. While said 2D art is good, his previous style was better.

>>100006 I would like to help but my style as Kisame17 is way too cookie cutter and follows the trends like most conservatives.

>>100006 Sidkid44 is basically only doing commissions and patreon voted ideas so you could blame most of that on his fanbase

>>100018 If that's true,I can't help but wonder how in the fuck he gained a following of GILF hunting scum before ever drawing that shit.

>>100024 Sid’s actually into GILFs himself

>>100006 >weird bumpy stretch mark vore Those family guy vore commissions he posted are so cringe

>>100030 Eeeeuch....don't remind me. Those are horrendous.

>>99776 Haven't seen any of Riddle's stuff in a long time. Thumbnails yes, but the fact he "riddles" them with propaganda watermarks isn't worth the click.

>>99775 Lmao robot's stuff was always trash. If you look at the most recent thing he posted and compare it to something he made 10 years ago you will see absolutely no difference.

>>99764 EdgeofMind came from decent rounds to a shitty detailing

>>100849 and you can never see the character's head because it is too sunken into the body or the cheeks are massive

>>99764 Villaru. I get 'Quantity over quality' But the old stuff was great, Now it's just this ugly 'Blob' Shit that twittroons put on a pedestal.

>>100761 Kisame here. I just don't see the activism that artists are talking about. I am the resident MAGA and I just ate as churro in NYC and a can of Ginger Ale. Blacks care about Good Burger.

>>100888 I would like to add that DeviantArt is losing to TikTok and Pixiv doesn't want the gaijin's art.

>>99839 Its not just TheNeverWere, there's another artist called Bigboobybotonme who's also seems to be doing it as well, like pull up a pic from theneverwere and this artist and I swear you can't tell the difference between the two

>>100908 >ere and >>100908 Here's a good example I think, one of these was done by TheNeverwere and the other was done by Bigboobynotonme. Can you tell who did what?

>>100911 Lol I can't tell the difference tho

>>99839 This. Damn shame too, cuz some of their old stuff is really good.

no exactly gone bad but basically does the same shape every time SXdelux every time he posts something inflation related its always the same shape every time cant he draw someone inflating or maybe something new besides the same inflated girl with sticking out limbs

>>100773 eh idk some of it has been good but 90% is bad

>>99923 Autism and Cringe make great art. Inflation artists aren't very autistic.

>>100911 TheNeverwere's loud house inflation had his best faces.

Isn't this an elaborate complaint thread?

>>101345 Dunno man, seems rather subjective. I think I prefer his newer stuff. TNW matured into his own unique style with shapes. Big fan of the monobutt stuff, love that he does it without making them all look the same.

>>101570 What are some good examples?

Do you really need a thread for this when we have a complain general?

My Thoughts in image

See >>98768

>>104642 I don't get it.

>>99764 not really got worse overtime, but got into a shitty taste and drawing the most unappealing shit

For me, it was HellResident. I'm not talking about his morphs and their quality, but more about what he does with it For sore reason he randomly removes morphs without giving a reason and gets really defensive if someones asks why or debates with them about such removals (even tho he recognizes fanarts or reposts of such morphs) he also only does basically specific cartoonish morphs today, barely to none hourglass, BE, AE, BBB n stuff (specifically). There's a reason why most of his more beloved morphs ARE Hourglass, BE or AE, because they were good, no cartoonish or whatever, maybe deflation, but no hyper heads or any shittery like that. I'm not talking only as a old fan of his, but as a morpher too, heck, excluding morphs without permission, of course, i'll never delete my own morph or cockblock my followers, imagine wasting hours of your time just to make a morph, throw it out to the trash then when someones ask u get all salty about it.

>>106541 Things like head inflation will always be hit or miss with some people but the way addde does it lately with alot of their shapes is just way to unappealing lately, its like they're trying way to hard to be that "Haha look at me I draw the funni shapes, aren't i silly uwu" kind of person >>106592 Also yeah, this super exaterrated cartoony stuff her been doing does not look a majority of the time, maybe its do to that kinda of stuff doesn't really work with real people as it looks really of putting and creepy as oppose to cartoon characters, and I do sometimes like some some of Hellresident's fullbody stuff like with their A new attraction sequence, and their monika sequence and even that new Dead or Alive pic, but his hourglass pics, be and ae pics were the best, and its really annoying on how he takes down his older stuff for no reason, when they look better than his more current And to be honest I think Hellresident has always been a shitty person, he's just probably becoming more vocal about it whenever someone doesn't agree him

>>106611 Ye, from what i can tell, he always was kinda a jackass, but if it was just a "mean black man" or whatever he putted on his personal twitter, not an actual asshole, i would be fine lol I like some of his new stuff too, but if you see his old stuff, clearly they ain't holding water. prob hes doing it for his still supporting but little fanbase on patreon, cuz they are the ones likely to be the reason of such decline. i'm still mad he didn't fullfill his promise of doing "morph classes" about how he morphs woman like he said to the rogue inflator, thats the worst of all. XD

>>99839 Hilarious thing about dick riding RidiculousCake is that if you call neverwere a copycat on twitter he just instantly blocks you then melts down on twitter followed by nuking his gallery. It's gotten that blatant of a copy that even RidiculousCake just calls him a clone now and that has to be a big hit to Neverweres Ego

>>106634 Clancy and crew have arrived

>>106635 Who?

>>106638 Highest paid coomer party of all time. Dont grab my ass

>>106639 I need to know more about this, tell me

>>106640 I want to know if u farted because im trying to make air escape inside your pussy or bootyhole while I cum inside

>>106634 Ok now I am curious about cake calling him out. Any more details on that?

>>106654 Not much other than you can post their art in RC's report my post and say its a clone, everyones response is usually Theneverwere and it just stays up.

>>106657 I take it you cant say two words together otherwise it changes it to report my post

>>99839 Just reported nearly all their minor fetish art and they make a journal calling it "false flags" >okay pedophile

>>99764 rename this site to complaintthreads chan

>>106784 >I reported anime girls. I'm a hero! Okay schizo. Makes me actually feel bad for artists having to heal with retards like you.

This thread is starting to become Twitter 2.0 Artists changed their things, deal with it Not everything stays the same If they want o do st new or change, let them be, you guys are not fucking everyone's god to force them stay the same Now someone bump lock this shit hole please

>>106784 Sounds like them to do that and then leave out why they were removed. It's funny how they make a journal and still bring up their $3 trash

>>106784 >>106787 kek

>>106809 Cara, você me dá nojo. Que bom que não vivo no mesmo país que você.>>106809 >>106809 >>106809

Robot001 pretty much although he didnt get worse he just stayed the same for a decade

i swear all axel-rosered does nowadays is diaper stuff

puntthepoodle's stuff isn't bad per say but his work has gotten really inconsistent as of late, i mean his stuff has always been a little inconsistent but nowadays it feels like a coin flip on whether its gold or shit. This is especially apparent in his shapes, texture, and line work

>>107642 SAD.

>>100849 He started GREAT and now it's bad.

>>109450 I liked his mlp humans.

>>111989 This.

>>107644 dude went to japan and never came back

>>104642 Masked loony is actually pretty damn good they get some characters inaccuracy more than others I've even seen.

>>106592 I honestly just wish dude would take commissions again and start doing more week to week stuff. I don't mind that he focuses on patron only but the dudes focus is on it is way too much. Not to mention when he uploads comics he splits them up into individual images posting them like one a week. Seriously it seems like your best bet with this content is just getting access to his patron as his da is shit. Again what he really needs to start doing is offering commissions. And maybe he splits them up into groups of five or six images three of which get posted right away three of which get gate kept in patreon until the next week. Then they become dropped as well. Just something anything better than the current format because the current format sucks ass it's all and only focus is on patreon stuff and although recently angry hands has had some pretty good stuff and I can't complain there's just too little of it. And again that content that he posted today won't see the light on da for months down the road! He's backlogged at least 6 months minimum I feel like I could be wrong but yeah something just feels off with his da page. and the factor he doesn't show that too much love and he prefers to show only the paid content more love is the reason why I don't feel like he's getting as much love as it used to. I do need some Branch out of it like I said start taking commissions take six a week or every two weeks split them up so you can use some for paid content some for da free uploads and I would think things would maybe start getting better but if he keeps it this current weight of format I don't think things are going to improve at all

>>106794 Actually, it's more accurately a fat fetish version of 4chan

I'm disapointed to see shitty artists like PumpedUp00 or others doing uberinflations by copying the style of Enigma20xx or Daemonking without any shame just because they are too bad to have a least of originality? Especially since his drawings are completely shit and do without the slightest effort.

EdgeOfMind, I don't often hate on artstyle changes but I'll make an exception for him because the shapes on his new stuff are more and more incomprehensible every time I check

>>115290 On a side note of praise I like the use of moving away from extremely puffy cheeks or at least leaving them as alt designs as we get to see his cute puffy faces a lot better I prefer the puffy faces over the blob face designs but honestly I don't mind them doing both and just saving the blobs as alternative designs for stash

>>115292 I just miss the rounder orb-like shapes honestly, I know people tend to clown on more circular inflation art (and I wonder if that's why he stopped doing them) but he almost never does em anymore even when doing inflated shapes

>>106786 Complaints are fun. Try it.

>>106786 We have >>116447

i know they've been brought up at least once in this thread but i need to tack on just how much i despise what puffpoff's art style has turned into, it all used to be so soft and cute and now it feels like every time they draw a character they do every single fucking thing in their power to remind you that it's is a middle aged man like if i wanted to see a six pack and a nose big enough to make yoshi blush i would not be coming to a fucking blueberry inflation artist

Can we fuse this thread with the artists-who-delete-everything general?

>>99764 Bump

>>99839 Okay now I'm double confused because Crack The Moon is super weird since they used to be into quickdraw and drew femboys and shiny girls with cocks, then it seems they rebranded completely and draws stuff completely identically to RidiculousCake? https://twitter.com/Crack_the_Moon https://twitter.com/SugarRushPlus https://twitter.com/Crack_the_Moon2

Edge of mind >>126814

>>100009 blew an insane amount of loads to his dva and 2b images man. i wish he did more shit like that it was kino

>>122750 Question do people really prefer more cute and unshaded vs shaded art? Would less shading in favor of more cuteness or sketching be beneficial? Because for me at least I shade heavy with whatever I draw but my device can't keep up with it it bugs out badly and it's annoying as it can set me back to zero. If I was lack on shading would it turn people off being lesser quality? Or it's there simplicity shading techniques anyone can recommend?

>>127279 No idea why, but there seems to be a small group of people who strive to draw identically to ridiculouscake. TheNeverWere comes to mind, and there's another guy on twitter who draws a ton of Sunny and Messy in a similar style.

burstoid without a doubt, went from making pretty solid morphs with strong potential to whatever he's doing now with art, I don't have an issue that he's pivoting to art but it pisses me off just how much of the basic art fundamentals he misses as well as his current inability to draw bodies, faces and hands, sure practice makes perfect but damn. Also the fact that despite these flaws he gets hundreds of favorites and likes on these artworks, who actually looks at them and thinks "yeah I can beat my shit to that"

>>130749 Blame DeviantArt their crackdown on morphs has everyone spooked if anything less I hope they still keep doing fictional character morphs. But trial and error it will get better >>130538 I mean sunny and messy are their character so it makes sense they're drawn in their style

for me i think that daytripper and steely bird got so bad after some

I was browsing some old artists I used to enjoy, wow, what happened to Blooberboy? His art has taken a hefty decline. It isn't just simpler than it used to be: he cuts more corners and doesn't add in as much detail as he used to. I mean, compare his first two Soft Drink sequences to the third. It doesn't even compare. Such a shame.

>>131079 I can understand saving the good works for patreon.

Not in style, the style's great, but in subjects he draws.

I would say SongofSwelling, but I legit don't think they were ever good

Keiji/Yer-Keij-Fer-Cash. Used to have a pretty cute, kind of anime-ish style, now the faces he draws just look weird and always have these super-exaggerated chipmunk cheeks. Not to mention, while his art always had a bit of a fast and loose vibe to it, nowadays it just looks lazy with how sloppy it always is.

probably 0pik-0ort, his artwork went from super-detailed pieces you could easily hang as posters to slop rushed from week to week. he only makes this shit wacky candy comic now and there wasnt inflation in it since like 2023

If I can throw in my two cents, NavSala is someone whose remain stagnated. Just keep relying on that good ol' circle tool.

>>139945 *NavSaka

NavSaka also constantly draws minors and speaks like a retard lmao, he recently posted a Trixie from FOP (11 years old) fuckin creep

>>140056 May I mention iCloud10, who is also a big fan of NavSaka to the point of aping his style, and who also drew inflation art of multiple Omori characters and Maria from Sonic. I also don’t like how he seemingly makes his goon art “silly and funny” that makes it look like it’s anything but coom stuff. /off-topic call me MATI but what mongoloid looks at a series with a cast that consists of wacky cartoon animals, robots, and old men and chooses to fap to the little girl who’s been dead for 50 years by the time the series started chronologically

>>106592 You've kind of answered your own question. Why would you think you're owed a 'debate' over why he removed x artwork? Challenging someone over something they've done that's not wrong, just you don't agree but then acting as though they need to convince you of why they did it is like page one from trolling for dummies and if you're a popular artist and get the same stuff from people all the time I can see why you're not getting the answers from him you want.

>>104642 Puffpoff looks decent wth?

>>140056 Speaking of Nav, the moment he did *that* piece, it was curtains for my respect. For context, Nav ended up drawing a real woman that was near a McDonalds he was at while getting something for that fuckass Minecraft movie. Needless to say, the backlash was immense, but I wouldn't call it undeserved.

>>101458 Back in the day when he normally drew inflation art and that was his main thing back then,He also only drew on paper while sometimes coloring them which looks better than how he colors now on a PC.He does nothing but slob shit nowadays and it looks fucking disgusting.

>>140567 dipshits get mad when they see male inflation because it doesnt make their cock hard :(

Not worse. Not bad. For example I love pic related. However it's the art style never changing in a decade.

>>144655 An artist who is well known for drawing thinly veiled loli art because he's a pedo.

I sort of feel this way about people like Axel Rosered who cashed out on a basic style and never seemed to branch out. There were others I've seen recently that I haven't seen since the early 2000s that also haven't changed at all. It's quite shocking.

I can think of one. Although we're they ever good

Hyperflannel is the easiest pull. He used to at least try to match the styles of certain series for some of his artwork of characters, but now all of his work has the same “how to draw: anime” aesthetic. Far apart bug eyes and awful proportions. Seen better looking blow up dolls than most of his recent art.

>>144781 >we're they ever good I'm going to assume you are either Wildcat or some other retarded faggot who's pretending to hate Robot001 all while getting off to him because he draws that ugly ass retarded Family Guy squirrel.

Cute is good but you need to try some variations.

>>107642 I can't stand the way he draws his faces nowadays for his new art. He always does the same 15 characters too. It's oh so boring and saturated.

>>144810 That’s the American Dad squirrel, you uncultured swine >>146316 Who is this? I feel like I should know.

The artist, I mean, not the character. I know that’s Nessa

>>144810 >>146339 Yeah that American dad episode got me fucked up! Such a tragic story.

>>146364 I'm assuming it's NotoriousThicc... the artstyle does look eerily similar.

Fuck InflateResponsibly. Even back when I shouldn't have been in the kinky community, something about him always rubbed me the wrong way, like... he's so overly negative and draws some really unappealing shit. And bro's got a fucking Pixiv because DeviantArt has a very obvious problem with allowing loli content... and he has the nerve to be a puritan asshole to say "lmao, it's fictional"

>>144802 You actually think the first two look better than the latter two? What?

>>147498 I think what they were getting at was that they prefer the series accuracy that Flannel used to have. Which is a fair point, but I like his new stuff just as much as the old stuff.

>>146372 You know that's based on the movie What's Eating Gilbert Grape. Darlene Cates, who played the mom, really was morbidly obese.

>>107642 Several years back he blocked me for asking "Are you going to be doing this diaper stuff all the time now?" in a reasonably polite way. (Note 'diaper stuff' instead of 'diaper (bull)shit'.) It was a fair question. If he was switching from inflation content to diaper content then I could have just stopped watching him and left amicably, but instead he decided to block me, so now any time his name comes up I tell people this anecdote and warn people to stay away from him because he's an asshole. "How to lose watchers and alienate people.", I suppose.

>>147715 The same kind of thing could be said for okayokayokok but asking him whether he'd be doing Adult Baby shit all the time would be inane given he's been doing it for years. Alot of it is comm work though alot of his inflation stuff nowadays attempts to be unique; and fails. Becomes abberrant rather than just new, or creative.

>>147715 Everyone has an Axel-Rosered story

I think I gotta go with steely bird. Something about how they do art now just doesn't do it for me anymore. Granted, I am 90% sure they have an alt account now that posts art closer in style to their earlier drawings (@kiyomi_draws).

>>147740 It was up until they introduced that shitty goth futa self insert.

>>147497 Gonna explain my full, unrelenting, and seething hatred I have, seeing as the original reply just can't be deleted. Okay... so, I decided to look into his commissions sheet on DA to see what he would and wouldn't do. Here we have what he will do for a flat fee (Exhibit A)... now, pay very close attention to the covered portion. I had to figure out what his fuckin' damage was, so I ended up doing some digging. First, I made it to his Pixiv, with a lot of the pieces I saw being either aged-up teenagers or lolis & shotas.... then again, they flagrantly allow that shit, so I shouldn't be too surprised. Then, I made my way over to Patreon (scalped from his Kemono because he doesn't deserve my money). There was no commission sheet, but I did end up finding something even worse (Exhibit B), and I thought that my research could've ended... but the sheet still needed to be found, so I moved on from Patremono. Inkbunny led me absolutely nowhere, so that left me with FurAffinity. To my shock, I ended up finding an uncensored version of the comms sheet (Exhibit C), and unsurprisingly... my guess on what was covered was right. There's a lot more stuff, but most of it is private and extremely personal. Just know that even when I shouldn't be in the inflation community, something about him never sat well with me.

>>147781 Truth be told I think he's based. A lot of people in the expansion art community are puritans and one less moralfag is a good thing in my book.

>>147798 Genuinely, fuck you. What's even wrong with gooning to adult women and having higher moral standards?

>>147781 >>147799 Imagine being a moralfag on a site like this.

>>147799 >unironically saying "gooning" Opinion discarded.

>>147820 Oh, boo hoo... I said one word you people hate, and now my opinion is immediately invalid? Fuck it. Lolicons like them should burn in Hell and wanting to bang fictional children is weird.

>>147832 I think the people who should burn in hell are people who actually molest ACTUAL children. Not weirdos who jerk off to underage inflation art. Get your priorities straight mate and stop getting worked up over cartoon sex art

>>147832 >Oh, boo hoo... I said one word you people hate, and now my opinion is immediately invalid? Yes. >Fuck it. Lolicons like them should burn in Hell and wanting to bang fictional children is weird. I middle on this. On one hand, it's not an actual kid. But on the other, why would you like loli if not for the childlike bodies? Will agree to fact not all lolicons want to fuck kids. But some do.

People are moralfagging here?

>>147842 I feel like it depends loli is technically a esthetic so let me give you a example Kanna a loli but she's a ancient pedo trying to ban a ten year old. Do we give her a pass I personally say fuck that shapeshifting bitch. Bad example. Ok so any obviously loli as in actual child. Terrible tornado from one punch man is considered loli too although she's not a child she's a 28 year old woman. Rebecca from cyberpunk is as well but again canon 20+ woman not a kid but still fits as loli because lolita aesthetic. Technically probably fits Harley Quinn too in some definitions. If it fits someone like Rebecca. Yet drag it back to actual children asuka original series and rei from Eva. Both canon 14 year olds. [The rebuild version is ok because she's 30 years old from time entrapment,and we clearly see asuka age and rip through her clothes at the end of rebuild] post rebuild ending actually everyone who's left alive is 30+ But mainline all children yet hyper sexualized which brings into the question another moral conundrum of why ages are the way they are? For example would the story really be different if they were late teen 18/19? I personally don't think so? And that brings me to my next case of a character that should have been 18/19/20 is mhas toga yes TOGA IS 17 AND SPOILERS DIES 17 YEARS OLD. and it's implied she's dating 25+ twice aka Deadpool clone. Such a good ship aesthetically but it's completely ruined when you realize she's 17 and that makes twice a pedo... Like damn horikoshi why? That personally feels like a stupid decision especially when you realize SHINIRAKI IS 21! YES THE MAIN ANTAGONIST IS PAIRED WITH DEKU AND WHOS HALF HIS AGE ELDER. I don't get or understand the purpose of making toga underage? It's a very stupid decision! Let's not talk about everyone's favorite funny konosuba in which technically every single character is of age outside two. Kazuma is in anime 16 well that was a deage from his manga light novel adaptation of which had him at a ripe age of 25! This was assumingly done because his end relationship spoiler is with megumi aka the loli. Who weirdly itself was also deaged from 17 to 14! One could at least assume the reason why they deaged kazuma was so he would clearly match up with his 17 year old love interest because there's nothing wrong with a 17 year old and a 16 year old dating because Romeo and Juliet laws. that kind of occurrence is more common than you think and it usually happens with school childhood sweethearts. But no they for the hell of it decided to make it pointless making her 14. So I don't know what they're thinking good news though is that darkness is 19/21 and aqua is ageless but most likely 20+ even if you argue with the anime she's 16 like kazuma her light novel has to be 25. Nothing is officially confirmed I believe but I'm just going to assume 20+ as it makes sense.. but either way light novel fans are definitely 100% safe. There's little to no difference between these characters outside of light novel kazuma having brown instead of green eyes. That said going back to wildness of the ageless. Let me just present to you the most wildest thing in fiction. Frieren who physically in human years is 30. Every sign points to it even the voice is very older! But people insist on calling her grandma loli.. why because why not people are weird. I'm sure there's plenty of examples that you can throw below that just boggle the human mind! That said I wouldn't say use it as an excuse to avoid anime entirely Japan tells amazing stories and to say that things like berserk are not worth the read because they will literally change the way your brain even thinks when the horrors it presents! Some of the deep enriching storytellings are just worth speed running past the bull. I mean again you don't have to like it I technically don't either I think it's stupid calling a adult a child but people keep insisting on it making this whole thing a jumbled mess of conclusion and some lore as well with some series it's just absolutely batshit insane. Do I even bring up that one jungle woman who is basically female Shazam a ten year old that can turn into a busty Amazon. And that kind of describes majority of the magical girl era random kids getting pervert powers by horny alien zordon. Again research things at your own risk and just be careful. I always suggest the one thing you do whenever you remotely find interest in a character sexual or not is who and source check. Always

>>147860 >Ok so any obviously loli as in actual child. Correction Ok so anna forger obviously loli as in actual child. Yeah no arguments there that's clear as day but terrible tornado as in a literal adult is also considered loli even though it doesn't make a lick of sense

>>147860 If you don't want to all that I'll just leave you with this example. Here's maho. She's 25. This is a undeniable fact in every sense of the word! There's no magic or trickery here! Yet she's a loli. Why? Simply just to insult her because she's Short. That's the whole butt of the joke. Calling her a small child because what else are you supposed to call short people when they tug at your ankles all angry that the at the front desk confused her for a small house plant. Also is it based to say knee high tube soxs is a sexy ass esthetic?

>>147860 >Kanna a loli but she's a ancient pedo trying to ban a ten year old Can someone fucking tell me where people are getting the Kanna isn't about the same age as Saikawa? So far it seems like everyone's just deluding themselves into thinking anything that involves a dragon is automatically a lolibaba and couldn't possibly just be aging like a human until full maturity, when aging becomes a crawl. >For example would the story really be different if they were late teen 18/19? I personally don't think so What are you, retarded; age gives extra context and can help things hit harder. Take for instance Nina Tucker vs Maes Hughes; what happened to both of them hit people hard but Nina fucked people up. Going back to MHA, what little I know about the series is that Toga is fucked up, her being in a taboo relationship would only help to paint it better. That all being said, it sounds like Twice was also messed in the head, so their relationship was likely born from the two constantly being close to each other and helping each other through their problems. >Kazuma is in anime 16 well that was a deage from his manga light novel adaptation of which had him at a ripe age of 25! This was assumingly done because his end relationship spoiler is with megumi aka the loli. Who weirdly itself was also deaged from 17 to 14! If there's any real difference in age for Kazuma, it's to to help the intended audience better relate to him. Megumin was because cute sales, while the other 2 of the 3 stooges of debt, covered sexy (Darkness) and a more middle ground by way of being a goofy woman with a hint of innocence whenever the retards ego isn't speaking (obviously Aqua). It'll help merchandise sales. >Frieren who physically in human years is 30. Every sign points to it even the voice is very older! But people insist on calling her grandma loli.. why because why not people are weird Because she's flat and short, but I've never touched Frieren, so I don't know if they're using loli correctly or if she's just slightly shorter than the other adult female characters. >That said I wouldn't say use it as an excuse to avoid anime entirely Japan Nah, do just that; if you're that easily bothered by fictional shit, anime's too much of a minefield (pic related 1) and you'll just end up trying to change shit to follow in line with what you believe and become an insufferable faggot and just support more of what's driven a lot of people to be in support of AI taking translator jobs. >I think it's stupid calling a adult a child but people keep insisting on it making this whole thing a jumbled mess of conclusion and some lore as well with some series it's just absolutely batshit insane. Loli is a bodytype; the reason it's like this is because there can be 2yr olds that are fully grown adults and then there can be pic 2 related. Give them huge breasts and wide birthing hips and they're no longer lolis, no matter the age; they're shortstacks. >Do I even bring up that one jungle woman who is basically female Shazam a ten year old that can turn into a busty Amazon Jungle De Ikou was the tits, I need to actually sit down and watching one of these days. Imagine if the form isn't set; when she becomes fully grown and likely with a huge chest of her own, it could make the transformations far greater in size and cause an eclipse over a chunk of the city. >that kind of describes majority of the magical girl era random kids getting pervert powers by horny alien zordon What the fuck are you talking about? There's magical girl aimed at kids to sell toys, dark magical girl series that are seemingly aimed more at adults, and the rare stuff like Cutie Honey which can fall into a lewd category which is also the adult magical girl. >>147861 Loli is bodytype, child is years alive. You can have a character like Konata Izumi be 18 and seen as an adult but is still a loli becuase of her tiny stature and flat chest and at the same time, have Yoko Littner be a 14 year old child and have a body people would see as an adults if not late teenager.

>>99945 WTF are you on about

>>147869 Na dead wrong if it was relatability why is megumi 14 instead of 16 with kazuma there's no reason for it. It also would make better sense to just.make her 18. She was already 17. Age may give extra context but when it's sexualized like asuka and rei is it doesn't change the factor them being older would have still held similar weight although deluded a bit dude who them not being child soldiers anymore. But I argue it could still be done tastefully at age 18/19 and rebuild proves this with 30+ asuka. Would it take away some emotional impact sure. But you can make up for it in other areas. The main importance here is that they are being used in merchandise sold as sexualized parody even I want you to pinpoint me to one piece of Eva merch that isn't made with fan service regarding the girls. No frieren isn't a loli. The term is being used incorrectly. Same as maho. But then again what I'm trying to establish is that the TERM has so many different meanings. That it's gone even beyond the point of oh loli = child. That's why they're such a big debate over it. It's not because people want to fuck children but when you categorize tatsumaki,maho and frieren as loli you money the waters and you make people think that their children when they are 100% confirmed not. >That said I wouldn't say use it as an excuse to avoid anime entirely Japan Nah, do just that; if you're that easily bothered by fictional shit, anime's too much of a minefield (pic related 1) and you'll just end up trying to change shit to follow in line with what you believe and become an insufferable faggot and just support more of what's driven a lot of people to be in support of AI taking translator jobs. Nobody's saying things necessarily have to be changed but like there are stupid examples for example megumi could have easily just been upgraded by one Year in age and save everyone a headache. They went out of their way to overcomplicate them into children and that's what I find stupid. Here's an example for you where the change is very minuscule. Gunsmith cats is a pretty popular anime but the manga and the anime differ from two different plot devices in both one of the back stories for one of the lead blond female's is that she comes from prostitution. This is a fact that exists in both the difference is when we first meet her in the manga she's 17 showing us the messed up world of human trafficking and child prostitutes. But in the anime we meet her at age 18 in which she comes to stay and live with the other lead protagonist. The difference is so minor that you can even argue even though h She's made adult in the anime only the story still holds and lingers on the same idea of the Manga that she was trafficked and prostituted at a young age. Still holding on to that exact as word for word you put it tension and character depth. The only difference is they add 1 single year to when the story starts and this is strictly done because the story has some pretty heavy fan service and the studio didn't feel comfortable with animating a 17 year old in them. It is a complete change to the source. But it still retains the same value and depth that the source holds without changing it 1 oz! If you're going to go about changes these are the ones I recommend. As it does little to no inconvenience to the plot whatsoever! Honestly Eva would STILL be just as dark if a bunch of freshly adults entered into this war hell scape and everything that would go down including drinking and other very very adult themes and topics. To say that certain ages have no wiggle room for editing is stupid. Also I disagree in the factor that you should drop anime and manga there's something out there for everyone. >Loli is a bodytype; the reason it's like this is because there can be 2yr olds that are fully grown adults Again the definition is vague technically it's short for lolita which is actually more of a fashion style that ironically came from that Natalie portman movie I believe the professional. But that also brings it back to your point in that film it's all about a middle aged hitman in a inappropriate romance with a child. So...... >that kind of describes majority of the magical girl era random kids getting pervert powers by horny alien zordon What the fuck are you talking about? There's magical girl aimed at kids to sell toys, dark magical girl series that are seemingly aimed more at adults, and the rare stuff like Cutie Honey which can fall into a lewd category which is also the adult magical girl. Fair I was being too vague. I also wanted to make a zordon joke. Loli is bodytype, child is years alive. You can have a character like Konata Izumi be 18 and seen as an adult but is still a loli becuase of her tiny stature and flat chest and at the same time, have Yoko Littner be a 14 year old child and have a body people would see as an adults if not late teenager. Kind of I'll just say it's complicated. This is why it's always important to do research

>>147869 Yoko also ages as the series progresses I believe the only difference between adult and child version is literally a little bit of height and her hairpins change or something

>>147869 One of the other things is when it comes to things like deities I don't really see a problem with them I mean by technicality aqua is a few hundred years old and that's why I say it's technically a pass. Nothing pin points she's a child fox girl for example is just very petite. I forget who age 42 was but that's actually parody as she's deliberately design that way for shock value. She's a mom too very funny part of that series. Usually two exceptions to the rule. Deities are ageless so a deities age being ????? Thousands of years is ok. And tatsumaki maho etc. shouldn't technically count because again 29,25. I don't care who wants to argue child in that scenario whatsoever! They are full blow women just petite just short. Nobody should be slut shamed for jerking off to terrible tornado. Anyone who does is a dumbass. That's the only point I'm trying to get across that I think we can all agree on that if it makes logical sense as a adult why are we trying to pinpoint it as something else it's not?

>>147871 Kisame here, fantasy is just the cheapest genre anime can produce because it doesn't generate billions like Gundam, Dragonball, or Naruto and there's no baggage in it. Japan is just wishy washy on anime because all other genres have been banned for corrupting the youth. Keep in mind Lupin and Joe were misogynistic while fantasy is safe. They're children because child protagonists like Ash aren't supposed to change and it's super conservative on the budget since action scenes cost money.

>>146339 It's NotoriousThicc/ @bigboobynotonme https://x.com/bigboobynotonme/status/1475134473796739076

>>147860 >Kanna a loli but she's a ancient pedo I don't care about the slice of life slop that is Dragon Maid. >Ok so any obviously loli as in actual child. As far as I can tell, part of the reason Loli has such bad backlash from americans is because of... us americans, who jacked the term. People seem to be under the assumption loli means you want to fuck a 2 year old. I don't think that's the case for everyone. >Terrible tornado from one punch man Tatsu is the first public case I know of about loli being okay. And that's fine. She's old. >Technically probably fits Harley Quinn too in some definitions. No. >If it fits someone like Rebecca Rebecca is a grown woman who is just a little shorter than other female characters and flat. I do not concsider her a loli. >Yet drag it back to actual children asuka original series and rei from Eva NeonGen kids look like actual teens. People just don't give a shit and still draw them. I wouldn't consider them loli. >But mainline all children yet hyper sexualized which brings into the question another moral conundrum of why ages are the way they are? I would consider myself well versed when it comes to manga. My explanation is two things. 1. The most popular animes are aimed towards teens. Shonen Jump is the biggest mag and most protagonist are kids. 2. Japanese people live reliving the high school days. Which is why so much media focuses on it. Not other reasons beyond that. >Frieren who physically in human years is 30. Every sign points to it even the voice is very older! But people insist on calling her grandma loli.. why because why not people are weird. See my Rebecca statement.

>>147497 PUSSY CAN'T HANDLE CUTE AND FUNNY WITHOUT THROWING A TANTRUM HAHAHAHAHAH

>>147894 >I would consider myself well versed when it comes to manga. My explanation is two things. 1. The most popular animes are aimed towards teens. Shonen Jump is the biggest mag and most protagonist are kids. 2. Japanese people live reliving the high school days. Which is why so much media focuses on it. Not other reasons beyond that. Actually there are a majority of different genres! Shonen which literally is teen based on nature just happens to dominate the charts. For example shojo is woman's romance it's where something like Twilight would fit if it was a manga. And Seinen Manga which is technically ADULTS only or M rated manga it's sadly one of the smaller ones in popularity but technically these genres can mix too you can have shojo with shonen elements like sailor moon or Dr Stone is a prime example of a dual category of Seinen + shonen. It's specifically why majority of the characters in it are 18 and older or after the first season age up heavily into late teens as the series is a rare example that isn't seeing much of a hybrid genre of the two. There are genres but the problem here mainly stems from shonen jump which is a monopoly that absolutely dominates all other categories! If you want your show to be seen like dragon ball one piece etc. then you want it to be issued in shonen jump! Series like for example berserk are in a more lesser known publisher and as a result it barely gets monthly chapters and a lot of serious sadly have to follow this format. But another downside to this is jump is pretty particular with deadlines and it could lead to series getting their endings rushed or just massive fatigue from the artist themselves it's a whole problem in its own industry. Only a select few like Oda toriyama and togashi for example have the freedoms to make their own deadlines because of popularity well in togashi's case he had done something very smart legally when filing the copyrights for his property and he 100% owns Hunter x Hunter with no middle man publisher! This means that if any company wants to distribute this specific work they have to pay him for the rights he is his own publisher. It also means he doesn't have to stick to the strict work schedules or the strict processes because usually a lot of the processes the closed door how things are made are held off from the world deliberately it's a corporate based secret.. togashi though since he 100% owns his own property he just posts occasional spoilers and storyboards all the time on his twitter going completely based and posting whatever the hell he feels like when he feels like it! It's honestly refreshing and humorous that even if the company wants to hide these known secrets they can't force him to do that by law because again he got a sound deal regarding his copyrights! That's not sadly the case for everyone. But again to bring it back to jump they hold the Monopoly so if you want to get into this industry the best way you're going to go about it isn't through adult content but teen based and sadly that means that a lot of things are edited down someone brought up kazuma I believe one of the reasons he was deaged was simply a company policy thing they wanted somebody more "relatable" But there's a lot of deeper things than you would think and just like any other industry there are a lot of deep-seated corporate issues that can make these artists lives of living hell. >Rebecca is a grown woman who is just a little shorter than other female characters and flat. I do not concsider her a loli. Actually technically yes and no. Yes she is a adult but as far as it is officially concerned her company studio trigger has gone on record and confirmed that in their eyes she is with 100% fact legal adult Loli. Even to detriment of the Creator who did not want that title posted on her. Studio trigger offered a ultimatum either you accept it or we walk. Their statement being that it's just simply lingo and terminology and the character is 100% adult. So Yes she's adult and 100% purposely designed that way but also is defined as Loli by calling card by her studio animators although she is not defined that way by her direct creator who was opposed to this. Long story short studio trigger kept getting ticked off by the multiple Twitter arguments regarding the character so they did it mostly just to troll people and piss them off it's that simple there's no special meaning behind it. But she's canon adult in her twenties. That is 100% factual that is confirmed there is no worries there there's no trickery.

>>147882 >Keep in mind Lupin and Joe were misogynistic while fantasy is safe. Lupin sexiest? Ok twitter I think you mean based. By the way has anyone seen the fujinko mine inflation scene it's a real fun eye catcher! >Japan is just wishy washy on anime because all other genres have been banned for corrupting the youth. This is the first time I'm hearing of such things. I mean if it's banned then why can I still want dragon Ball. Ash aren't supposed to change and it's super conservative on the budget since action scenes cost money. I will at least give you a bit of the ash argument as by having a character ageless it means that they can work the story this still doesn't mean that the character has to be 10 years old. Characters like Mordecai and Rigby are adults and they work fine in their environment! however they see fit. But that should have nothing to do with budget concerns? Again you don't know what the fuck you were talking about What the hell are you on about so have a seat in the corner Jan. Think before you type next time.

Artists uncharacteristically getting better?

Sir-Wales used to be the best writer in the fat/inflation scene. WTF happened to that guy? Go check out his account, all that motherfucker writes anymore is slob and farts. And half of it reads like he either used chatgpt to write it for him or got kicked in the head by a horse and forgot how to speak english All the other artists in this thread were debatably shit even when they were good, but that guy is a true fall from grace

>>150233 Because a good portion of those stories are comms/requests from patreon subs. I've had a few done myself and I'd say he's still the best wg/inflation writer.

>>150233 >>150235 I do think Wales is working himself pretty thin with all the Patreon requests. He has to do so many stories for so many clients a month, I'm not surprised he's showing signs of burnout in his work and the various breaks he's taking.

>>150239 Yeah that's about it, he's got alot on one plate. Comms (Both long and short) and the monthly prompts aren't going to be easy to juggle. >>150233 Hate to reply twice but the i didn't read the chat-gpt thing first. I can tell you Wales doesn't use AI, just from observation. Chat-GPT tends to simulate bizzare, hyperbolic and metaphorical nonsense when you try to get it to make a fetish story, same with grok. https://www.deviantart.com/wonka-verse/art/The-Factory-Returns-Part-4-1193467272 This as an example. (Side note, No surprise this slop is fronted by songauregarde.)

>>147954 Joe Yabuki and Lupin have very cruder vocabulary. The Japanese are boomers and don't like darkness. I doubt Pokemon is super conservative on the budget. The problem with Pokemon is Shudo puts more emphasis on adventure, which will take him 20-30 years to reach Kalos at the expense of developing legendary Pokemon. I don't care about money, money, money! I just don't obsess over small details

>>147953 Torishima said that Mangaka are not writing for the magazines and doing personal projects with unremarkable people. He's right. I forgot about Naruto, Bleach, My Hero Academia, and Demon Slayer. I still remember Dragonball, Sailor Moon, and Inuyasha. I don't care for Dr. Stone

>>150233 As someone who's worked very closely with Wales and even have done some writing alongside him (private stuff for our own fun), I can confirm chatgpt is not a tool Wales uses for his writing process. If anything, he was a bit offended someone had used AI writing in a contest he had held with his patrons, though he never spoke such aloud. It's genuinely something he'd never consider using, even in the current state of production he's in. The other posters are correct that he has quite a bit on his plate on a month to month basis, juggling a fair number of patrons with differing tastes and franchises to all get right. Here's a direct quote from one of his recent patron posts addressing the current state of the burnout in regards to his workload: "Like I ran some numbers. Out of the 195 days so far this year, I've written for 80% of them at about 4 pages a day. My current consecutive word count is 415,091. Which on a 500 words per page average, that equates to about 118~ pages per month." All of this to say, you're welcome to feel as you do about how things read for you tastes, but there are some underlying causes that are to be addressed with his current plans that should help to levy some of this, including him taking some time to write some things for himself that may be more to what you're hoping for. What those things will be are still a mystery to even the closest of us, but you have a fair shake. It may not hurt to reach out and speak with him about your concerns, he's fairly open to talking with people and would likely appreciate your constructive criticisms.

>>99839 He was a shit artist before

>>150233 Yeah that's something I've worried about with dip in quality. I try to give everything the same amount of polish and love but Patreon work has gotten a little out of hand. As others have said, most of that dip is due to burnout. Trying to keep up with stuff while also working full time. My own fault really. I'm happy to provide for patrons and commissioners though I think the "forgot English" bit comes from trying to push through blocks than anything else. It's something to keep in mind going forward. In regards to AI tools/GPT I've only ever used them with regards to stories if I can't think of a good title. Nothing in my main content is AI generated. As someone else said, if there's more feedback you'd like to give, feel free to message me. I want to continue doing my best for people who read my stories. I appreciate you speaking your mind as such!

>>101345 Is there an archive of his old stuff?

>>150289 To me, NeverWere's a sad case of "bad art, then art gets even worse" Like, the shit was bad, but at least it was something you can say "yeah, that's his stuff". Nowadays, it's all just trying to be a diet RidiculousCake (and Cake is arguably one of the worst artists in this space)

>>151552 The only thing separating him from cake is that his colors are more muted and his lines are 5% denser, everything else about is art is just a straight ripoff.

>>151556 That, and as an online personality... He's like Cake if you removed the racism and dialed the pedophilia down to the "getting pissy over pushback" setting... granted, he doesn't draw shit like Violet Beaureguarde, but still. No need to act like an asshole when people are upset you decided it'd be a good idea to draw incest art for Coffin of Andy & Leyley.

>>151564 >Ridiculous Cake >Racist What kind of retardation is this?

>>151627 The more they see nothing works the more they get desperate.

>>151552 >>151556 >>151564 I remember when Never asked for feedback and another artist just straight up called him ridiculouscake-lite and he blocked them followed up by closing comments when it was the only comment there, then making a follow up tweet about it then proceeded to crash out on his report my post group before disabling the report my post link because the artist came to the report my post group to see if the crash out was real

>>152379 *crash out on his report my post

>>152380 Wow I had no idea that word was censored, I’m sure you worked out what I meant but if you didn’t then the word thats censored is that dragon goat horse guy’s name from MLP

>>101345 yeah. also used to have some balls when choosing subjects.

>>152388 if balls means drawing kids I wouldn't call that balls, he still does that it's why some artists stopped talking to him

>>152395 Artists are getting bad because they got rid of schizos like Kisame17 the newer stuff is garbage cause they've got no competition. They're no in their 40s and men are irrationally afraid of fantasy.

I still think Cross Crescent's style deteriorated with too much saccharine queer stuff. I cannot tell who is who became they all have the same style. Same goes for Marrazan where they're the same.

Industrial Light and Magic

>>155288 Bruh ar U Fuking High,This is about inflation artists.Not a Effects CGI Company.

Cleverfoxman and Fatclubinc they haven't really gotten worse but you can tell when they got lazy

>>151564 Cake is racist?

>>155362 Who isn't

Ok I gotta ask. How is cake a racist? I hear people keep saying it but never any receipts. No specific instances. When people pointed out how stupid CathyN was people would easily give examples. With cake all I hear is “he is a racist trust me bro” I even spoke with him a couple times he was very pleasant to talk to and even gave me some pointers for my own art. I mean we never talked about the finer points of the emancipation proclamation, 9/11, any other hot button issue that could show he is a “racist”so I might be in the dark. He just seemed like a polite guy.

>>158023 Here is the reason people claim Cake is racist. Ready for this?.... It's because he said that people tearing down historical statues during BLM were stupid and morally wrong. That is it. Cake had an issue with people tearing down confederate statues because not only were they setting a bad example for the cause they were also erasing history that needed to be remembered so that said history wasn't repeated. The fucker even admitted he was a democrat when discussing the issue. Unfortunately the video where cake spoke himself on the issues appears to be scrubbed but it was a very measured and understandable stance.

>>158029 >It's because he said that people tearing down historical statues during BLM were stupid and morally wrong. That is it. The sexy girl versions of Hurricane Dorian and Covid-19 he drew didn't exactly help matters either.

>>158030 His followers are to blame for corona-chan, he drew it then a week later an artist's dad died of covid. he then told his stream he wasn't going to draw her anymore and even said why and his fans got mad at him for the reason, Hurricane Dorian he found out someone he knew died getting crushed by their homes rubble and his fans were mad about him not drawing her. His fan's are crazy and need calling out more then what he does

>>158029 I mean to be fair it's statues. Statues exist to honor people for specific reason or another. Although I too don't agree just sticking dynamite up a confederate statue's ass (mostly because let's think of it logically. Statues are heavy and that s*** is easily dangerous and can lead to somebody getting crushed especially from illiterate people who don't know what the hell they're doing and haven't handled demo work a day in their life!) but it's different than removing book or data on historical events if a individual wishes a Statue celebrating a horrible individual is quietly removed than that's understandable too. I don't agree in history erasure either but look at it this way even somebody with gold medals from an Olympic event loose them the moment finds out they're using steroids especially under the context of specifically using them to win certain metals. Same thing here. >>158047 honestly let's get this off the bat. A Corona virus Chan was probably a bad idea to begin with! But even though that sound's edgy and I say that at the same time their company's legitimately out there selling virus merch plushies so kind of no different of a situation whether it's a fetish artist or a cute representation of gonorrhea in stuffed form? But yeah I do agree on one thing you can't blame the man if his fans are unhinged that's 100% on them! You're not supposed to be your audience keepers. They make their own choices.

Also let's bring up another elephant I think another reason why he get shit on alot is probably the underage character thing. Now to be fair he has gone on record saying any version of Wonka characters and for example his Pacifica and mabel inflation stuff was drawn as 18+ aged up designs. And they are taller with exaggerated curves and features such as breast that accent a adult body! But then there are times where the loli slips the cracks like the Halloween story which I unironically do like about the clown that permanent pops people. With his two characters one of which is a baby sitter/ older sister who is 100% 18+ and adult. She's the one actually inflated and bursted in the story but are particular footnote comes at the epilogue in which it implies heavily that the clown Targets her baby sister next. Starting the game all over again and although maybe I'm wrong here and the younger sister is 18+ if the older sister is like 20/25 and given the size in statute it's hard to believe she's 18+. Again maybe she's like meg from brawl stars and is just a very short queen for a 19 year old or whatever? But some of the story elements heavily imp trick or treating and the older sister is literally babysitting! And adults tend to not be watched over like that. I don't know again it is pencil lines but still and I think that leeway gives people a lot of excuses to do whatever the fuck they want with their trauma and shit on cake under the presumption he's just a pedo or some shit and to be fair even if they're is controversial aspects to him it doesn't give you the right to also be an equal bad person and trauma dump more shit onto him. If you're going to blame somebody for something at least blame them for something that is their fault! And again cake at least gets enough respect out of me that he aged up his characters and that younger sister girl is the only example that comes to mind of him doing loli again assuming I'm not wrong. But you tell me the younger sister is the short one here could be 18,16,12 who fucking knows? You tell me to be honest but yeah regardless it doesn't give people the right to be extra weird and force covid chan and other weird shit onto him

>>158057 Dude

Oh yeah, I remember corona Chan. I thought it was kinda stupid and I moved on like a normal person. I never knew about the statue thing but I do agree with him that we need to keep them to remember. I mean it’s not like we are going to keep the slave bunks or the ripped up rails from Sherman. As for the loli stuff I do see it and I think he was quick to quell any confusion of the characters. However, the pony shit does feel a bit loli if I am being honest. On the topic of the kids from above. In all fairness when you trick-or -treat your kind of set on a path of the street (think mini golf). So the fact that they “followed them” is not really that odd.

>>158067 You're using a tumblr post? bro that post is now older than what RC was when he made that post wasn't he a teenager at that point? tell me everything you did as a teenager so I can hold it against you when your in your 30's

>>158076 The dude acknowledged this shit, and rather than give out an actual apology or even acknowledge that what he did was wrong... bro decides to deny it by going nuh-uh and denying he ever did that Also, pretty sure he was like... 18 or 19 when that happened. Still a teenager, yes... but like, you're entering the early stages of adulthood, you really shouldn't be making mistakes like that.

>>158078 it was 15 years ago move on

Sergio Cipactli, currently known as MoresDate, is somewhat unusual in his style, sometimes he improves, sometimes he gets worse. He's also pessimistic and prone to playing the victim. What are your opinions on this artist?

>>158123 I've comm'd him a few times before, he's... Really difficult to work with sometimes. I do agree with your statement though. I've seen him do good stuff but then I'd comm him and it isn't nearly as good. He's even messed up a few artworks of my friend.

>>158123 I worked with Sergio before on a couple projects as well. He's actually struggling with chronic depression and burnout because of his job closing down during pandemic. He's had it rough since then.

>>158123 >>158131 >>158137 sounds like every artist I know when it comes to coms and their depression, when you lose your job or never had one you still have to pay rent at the end of the month sometimes they'll cut a corner to get the com over with then move on to the next com and do the same then you'll see their own work thats way better than their com work and its only better as they werent rushed to get it out

>>158123 You might as well roll the dice with his work. Sometimes it's good, sometimes... not so much. There's no consistent pattern with this fluctuating quality, either. No "for every good piece, he makes two pieces that are dogshit", Sergio's a rollercoaster of quality.

I'd say AltzEgoz is up there... but if I'm being real, his art's never been all too good. Way too lazy. I look at everything from him, and I don't think "he's having fun". I think, instead "he sounds really miserable and regrets that this is even his life", even when it isn't kinky. It's like his original art's a mix of both the average adult sitcom and Loud House, and the pre-existing shit is just that but mixed with the original artstyle.

>>158253 Altz had a strong start but was unfortunate to befriend a lot of artists who were both friends with each other and a secret pedophile ring that either ran away when they were caught or just outright denied they did underage shit then nuked their galleries to cover it up but forgetting their pixiv exists and that we can see which artists they follow coughcoughneverwerecoughcough so they just copied what those pedo friends were doing and it drew in an audience that hated when he deviated from it, it was evident when he drew sabrina the teenage witches aunties from the cartoon show and his followers wanted a sabrina follow up

>>158253 >>158271 i genuinely have no idea what you expect from these people who draw characters from kids cartoons, theyre less pedophiles and more just retarded to the point of being children mentally. altzego is a fine enough artist, but definitely reeks of stagnation. his spherical inflation shit is so fucking bad though

>>158280 That's like... most inflation artists in a nutshell, and there's nothing really wrong with doing that shit. Altz isn't even a pedo to me, he's just kind of an asshole because "DA dared to take down my art of Marie Kanker". Yeah, the sperical shit is genuinely ass, I will give you that... but being honest, almost every single piece feels templated. I looked at both his G-Lo and humanized EVE pieces, and I think "wait, that's just beat-for-beat the same shape.

>>158271 Or they double down and act like giant assholes about it (InflateResponsibly, I'm looking right at you). Good thing you brought up Pixiv, that site's genuinely the worst. It's just people lying that they're from Japan just to get access to the shit that makes DA's mods rightfully angry.

Glad to see this site became less about criticizing artist whose work has gotten worse and just a massive tantrum corner for faggots whining about artists who draw fictional kids and somehow that equals to you niggers screeching "PEDO!! HE'S A PEDO!!" you're pretty damn pathetic lmfao

>>158383 you're more likely to be mentally retarded than a pedophile if you draw exclusively underaged cartoon characters. says alot about the artist's media consumption

>>158413 Having a diverse media diet is good, actually.

>>158383 Found Neverwere

>>158067 >literally posts exonerating evidence