This entire thread is a magnet for misery. >>78544 >It feels like internet had a huge reset and everyone simply forget how to don't give a fuck about any random internet strangers It's simple, the Internet became marketable and accessible. The Sekrit Klub died and the smartphone killed it.

The worst part about Lolicon being more and more villified is that it's making loli content less casual and normal. For example, loli fats back in the day was extremley normal. People would just draw an underage character because they liked them. The age of the character was a complete afterthought. You'd see tons of fetish content for characters like Saria from Zelda, and people wouldn't be afraid of making Highschool age OCs (It was only natural). Anyone who complained in comments about the characters being underage would be met with a resounding "Who cares.". As time has gone on, those complainers have grown in number and have become artists themselves, and thus drawing art of loli characters has become all the more eyebrow raising and more of a "backstage" thing. So many sites now delete that kind of content, which inherently makes the content go from "I just so happened to draw a loli character" to a more intentionally taboo thing. You have to go out of your way to find the loli stuff, you can't stumble upon it anymore. The loli content is more often than not no longer alongside regular content, which makes it a "lolicon space" and makes it inherently more degenerate as a result. What was once just so happening to draw a loli character becomes specifically fetishising youngness.Taking away the lolis only makes the people who enjoyed that content more rabid and debaucherous. Before they would look at adults and lolis just because they loved fats. But with lolis gone, they find themselves seeking out the lolis and being drawn into the depths of depravity. Works the fetishising the characters for specifically having young ages, works that specifically use the word "child" or call the viewer a pedophile. By extension having to delve into the infested pits of loli pixiv, in which actual pedophiles RP with eachother in the comments and scarily realistic nightmare fuel loli/sho art is in the recomendations, with works that full on use tags like "Pedo" and "Little Girl". Every other month the fat loli thread on alt will get a discord server link, many of which will have a non zero percent chance of having an "IRL" channel. . The vilification of simple arts of hot characters that just so happened to be underage created a generation of borderline pedos. >>80587 Squarewave is nowhere near "Secretly into loli". He just flat out draws lolis sometimes but some of his English anti friends are stupid to realise it.

>>80621 Pretty much this, it's scary how low functioning some of these pro-loli guys are. I just want to see a drawing of a dubiously aged fat character for god's sake! but when the comment section starts getting filled with niggas acting all cutesy I'm out.

>>80621 >>80624 Take your meds, both of you.

>>80621 It's genuinely insane that you're jumping through this many hoops to convince yourself that the reason that most image hosting sites don't allow fetishised loli artwork is somehow because of a years-long movement to demonize loli artists. My brother in christ, literally the only reason these sites don't allow this content is because they don't want to be anywhere near anything that could be even remotely compared to actual CP. They are companies and they want to maintain a squeaky clean image and not brush with the law, that is all there is to it. It was different years ago because the internet was smaller and there was less moderation and consideration given to actually having the content shared on platforms adhere to real word principles, that's changed now. Drawing art of underage characters has ALWAYS been considered taboo and degenerate in society, the only thing the internet has changed is that the people who are vocally against this kind of art now have more platforms to speak on. Go touch grass, like actually go outside and do something constructive in the real world for once. Your post just reeks of the kind of brainrotting that comes from spending weeks being terminally online in the wrong places, if you don't have enough self-awareness to realise this I pity you.

>>80637 No, bro. I don't think. The fact that that's the takeaway you got about what I said is a tad odd. Literally all I said in regards to that topic is people used to brush off the complainers, and then the complainers grew in numbers and assimilated into the pack. And then afterwards when I mentioned that sites cracked down on loli it was literally just that. I didn't say that complainers were the reason for it or whatever you think I'm saying. I just said those sentences back to back. I'm not THAT conspiratorial to suggest that FFANumber5 or whoever works for Wix and asked all the lolis to be purged from DA.

Did dook ever finish this? I don't lurk 4chan so I wouldn't know.

Can’t help but feel like Lolwutburger has poorly hidden attraction to lolis in spite of him overthinking in public what character he can and cannot draw with finding even the tiniest reasons to draw "problematic" characters (like Raven from Titans Go because they mentioned once that with each season character became a year older ). He has a loli-proportional OC and his Pixiv bookmarks has loli inflation art saved. Generally if an artist has a Pixiv account that’s a 99% guarantee they love loli art

>>83255 It's hidden well enough from the moralfags to not cause a massive riot but the pixiv is a dead giveaway. Dude wouldn't want to lose his audience so he has to "play it safe"

not super surprising

>>83255 Forget his tags, his hands have gotten dirty in it aswell!

>>83065 How new is this!? He’s still doing Loli content~?

>>83320 Very new. Seems like he's terrified of posting drawing characters that could be interpretted as loli ever since one of his artist friends bitched about it years ago

>>83319 I just reversed image searched this and this is just an edited photo. the Gregory and Cassie are from Mothman64

>>83329 I know most anons here won't care since shota isn't their cup of tea,but it still bums me about how Mothman64 was basically treated as a pariah by most deviantart users. Then again,all loli/shota artists are,so I guess I've no reason to complain about his case specifically.

>>83334 He was a drooling retard who drew slop, not hard to see why he was a walking punchline.

>>83334 Does using the japanese terms still translate to "Pedo artist" or does it actually mean something different?

We need fat artists to start being as based as this

>>83413 >vast majority of art and retweets are giant-titted adults despite being "pretty often" If this is the benchmark for "based" then the future is pretty grim.

>>83412 >(1) It's not even summer yet and the faggots are still crawling into this thread to deflect their own dirty laundry.

>>83433 How ironic is that rage, or perhaps shame?

>>83448 Disgust that you faggots are allowed to waste my carbon.

Not necessarily exclusive to loli, but Roundersofter seems to not really care about character ages, despite how much huffing and puffing they go on about disliking 'fantasizing on teens' publicly.

>>83595 Kim possible turns 18 around season 4 so that one doesn't really apply here. Although this does bring up a point that i have that artist like these don't do research on fictional characters they only assume by body type what age they are which is fucking stupid. That's why everyone sexualizes Miku because NO ONE DID RESEARCH. They assume she's 18 because she looks 18 even though she's 16. They invertedly have the "Close enough. Age them up" mantra that some artist do to try and get these shitheels not shitting on them or some sense of derange idea of "I'm better than them because i say they 18."

>>83599 sir calm down, theyre not real it doesnt matter

>>83600 I know they're not real. What made you think i'm Anti-Loli?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/30615488/bookmarks/artworks

>>84078 Yeah, if you know where to look, you'll find a bunch of artists old abandoned pixivs that have so much loli stuff in their bookmarks. It's funny.

>>83599 Because its a blatant hypocrisy that a lot of these people who did this either deny The age only matters to them when its conveint for them, like for example you could draw most of the danganronpa characters from 1,2 and 3, the persona cast and characters from Komi-san and Dress up Darling just fine with minor complaints (even tho by these same standards and logic that these people try to enforce and bully you into obeying they're "underage"), but the moment you draw characters like Anya Forger, Kanna from Dragon Maid or any of the pokemon trainers, then you're a pedo, and blah blah blah, I think we all get the picture of how these things always go. Also giving a character boobs or even huge boobs isn't "aging them up", since oppai lolis and shortstacks are a thing. In fact I feel like maniacal fork made a good thread post about this behavior; about how you could draw things gore and stuff like that and no one would really call you a serial killer or the like for it, but then the moment when you draw a loli or an "underage" characters then you get called pretty serious accusations for it, and we all know why these people do this; either because they're projecting, they're trying hide the scummy things and behavior they've committed behind closed doors, and the most likely case a lot of the times, is that they want to bully, harass and kick out the people and artist they don't like. Sorry for rambling

>>84231 You and ManiacalFork are both overlooking something though that there's already been several incidents throughout the years of people who used to be respected overall in the community just admitting or getting caught messing about in real life taboos, basically blurring the lines of fiction and reality which is basically the common defense for this stuff. MistyStuffer, responsible for one of the first fetish communities that wasn't a fucking Yahoo Group even before DA was a thing, admitted to stalking fat kids in playgrounds and is rumoured to have been FBI'd over it as well. RidiculousCake publicly admitted to stalking a fat child that resembled one of his OCs during one Halloween. VikingSkirts knowingly sent nudes to a minor Ms-Chemi had a really detailed discord DM leak about wanting to fuck a friend's irl baby brother. These are just the ones you hear about all the time too. When people they trust let you down like this it's easy to just get a guilt complex and think it's a slippery slope, it's easy to call hypocrisy and I'm sure that's true but I imagine some people are just scared and insecure that they might be slipping into being genuine pedos, too.

... And right as I make my post I see some Twitter drama about someone who draws inflation art of lolis getting flak for drawing a irl person they saw at a McDonald's. It just proves my point, all you need is a few rotten eggs being irl creepers to break the defense, and between the literal who's and respected community members there's too many incidents that have led to people being untrusting or insecure about it.

>>84239 >rumoured to have been FBI'd over it as well Like four times; why I actually think he hasn't actually done anything but yank his bologna to shit as close to the fence of getting vanned as possible. >RidiculousCake publicly admitted to stalking a fat child that resembled one of his OCs during one Halloween That still reads like a sperg moment simply about his OC being real. >When people they trust let you down like this it's easy to just get a guilt complex and think it's a slippery slope There really is a surplus on spineless faggotry if that's anywhere close to true. There's only really two sizable groups for people who join anti loli, after supporting loli; those who just want to be part of the cool kids, and those who are scared of being attacked. I'd say those who are scared they're gonna end up facing Chris Hansen, are a small handful with severe self esteem issues. >all you need is a few rotten eggs being irl creepers to break the defense There's always exceptions to rules; it's only when it's too widespread, that it keeps popping up, when it actually breaks anything. You're really reading too far into what's essentially high school clique bullshit.

>>84239 >>84241 Outside of the fact I can assure you the vast majority of anti-loli crusaders/people that got spooked out of being lolicons have never heard of these people or these incidents, there's plenty of situations where people being anti-loli were just outright arrested for child sexual exploitation material possession, like Kyle Carozza or the one Vice journalist that called the entire manga industry pedophilic. Are you supposed to START wanting to fuck lolis after seeing their hypocrisy? DOOM became infamous for being the favorite game of the Columbine Shooters, do you think this makes you one of them, or that it is definitive proof that video games cause violence? Your point doesn't make any rational sense, it is reliant on "respected members" and not any real basis in logic, science, or actual human behavior. This isn't a matter of rotten apples or the like, the idea is that exposure to such would make (You) more at risk of putting kids in danger. And there's nothing about these 4 creeps listed that says you are more likely to do what they did by indulging in lolicon/shotacon art.

Roundersofter is moralfag hypocrite, he has drawn: - Zoe from Lol - Suika & Remilia from Touhou - Elise from Fire Emblem

>>84263 The whole RC fiasco reminded me how not so long after people turned against him, Skalesstash/Vikingskirts got outed for sexting and sharing nudes to minors on a erp private discord, and a very few gave a shit about it.

>>84231 Hold on now, Jack. I agree that fussing about the specifics of character ages is a bunch of malarkey. But you're yanking my chain if you can't grasp why people okay with porning up characters like Ann Takamaki raise their brow with Anya. Now I know what you'll say. "So, Hoss, you think it's all well and dandy so long as they're lookin' old? Sounds like peedo-talk to me" But to that I answer a tune you're used to jabbing- They're fictional. Truth is that whatever little bumper sticker the author puts next to "Age" matters little to most. For someone like Anya, whether that little sticker says 5 or 50, people see a character that looks like a lil'one, acts like a lil'one, and is treated by the characters in the story like a lil'one. Same reason why Kanna gets the treatment despite being aged in the hundreds. I'm not gonna hoot and holler if someone fancies themselves an Anya, a Kanna, or a what have you. Like I said, it's all fiction. But you're looney if it's mystifying to you why people feel attracted to one, but so strongly put off by the other.

>>84283 Him being a wrongthinker about shit like blm, is what really got them pushing it hard. >>84291 >Same reason why Kanna gets the treatment despite being aged in the hundreds >aged in the hundreds Since when? >you're looney if it's mystifying to you why people feel attracted to one, but so strongly put off by the other >TFW you want both >TFW anon besmirches your honor.

>>84305 >Him being a wrongthinker about shit like blm, is what really got them pushing it hard Yeah you can pinpoint the exact moment fat loli suddenly became bad and twitter's go to hate target when RC made some spicy takes about BLM, especially the drawing he did mocking protestors. Before that people didn't mind he drew fat kids, but after the BLM commentary everyone suddenly gave a shit about his drawings and dogpiled on him. After that, fat loli artists, like Dook, deleted all their loli art and denied ever doing such at best or joined the hate mob to avoid suffering a fate like RC at worst.

>>84241 it's not even confirmed whether the person was a kid or not, they just draw adults that way too i completely missed the post and the evil part of me is going "can i see it"

>>84364 nevermind it's at >>>/inf/140905 what do you mean this is what makes twitter moral warriors shit their pants

>>84310 You know what is funny. If you draw whatever you want and just don't interact with any of this whiny fags they can't do anything. Wow. Such a power of a simply logic.

>>84391 Until they start reporting your shit and your stuff gets taken down. Like the one schizo that took down basically every fat Shantae image on DA in the 2010s, or how its a coinflip whether or not images of Persona girls will get taken down or not. You can't completely ignore it

>>84273 From what I can tell, he's drawn a lot of characters that are depicted in the 17-18 range in the original source. (Like they start the story at 17, but are 18 at the end of it. No mention or big fanfare on it.) Which does clear them and is generally splitting hairs, but it does ring hallow if he's going to be pissy and remove images like of someone 17, but be okay with High Schooler Mitsuru when there is a canon 20-something version available that gets you further away from thier 'no-go' range.

>>84638 Funny how he claims that doesn't draw characters under 18. It's not even just teenagers, but he also drawn 500-year lolis too. I really don't get what is and isn't acceptable to him.

>>84654 >I really don't get what is and isn't acceptable to him. If someone doesn't whine about the character it's fine, once someone does he won't draw them anymore. See the Unicorn Overlord characters. He was completely fine with it until one dude said something.

>>84752 Really, it only took one whiny pissant to make him disavow that cast?

>>84836 Not sure about the whole cast, but those two characters at least. And iirc, all that commenter does is go around other's pieces and whine about thier ages. Wherein all those other artists ignore it, Rounder got wound up enough to nuke these art pieces. No others, of course. Its just so stupid.

>>82777 Shame this guy pivoted away from humans in general to mostly anthro stuff, those OCs are good.