/gen/ - General Discussion

They really could have just commissioned squarewave29 instead to create a modern rendition.

So, why are you such a faggot?

>>92076 fr tho, miss the old icon, along with the 404 one

Theres nothing we can do about that

They took her soul Her cuteness, even if it did look a bit jank A husk of her former self😢💔 (I mean it doesn't really matter but also it didn't need changing🤷♂️)

>>92627 This retard has been spamming/bumping threads all day in multiple boards. Taking bets: ESL, Retard or underage.

>>92638 The Brazilian anon goes by xe/xem/xyr, bigot!

Admin seems to be an AIfag. I asked if there were and homebrew weight gain games for older consoles in the games thread on /bbwalt/ and he replied to my post saying some shit like "I wondered the same thing so now I'm considering doing it throught the power of AI!" or some shit.

i mean barclay already protects and caters to pedophiles (see the alt/everything else loli threads) because they contribute clicks to his site so him being a cuckold ai slave is no surprise either

>>92653 >The admin wanted to help me The nerve

>>92662 You using and posting on this site would make you a pedophile by proxy, maybe you should just shoot yourself now instead of waiting for the feds to do it

>>92076 Alright. Guess I'll spend some time on this thread. Why did I do it? TBH: I was bored as hell during the re-build a couple of months ago, felt like the logo could use an update, and did a quickie pass on it. That's it. I didn't hate the old one, I don't love the new one, it was just a wild hare. I'm actually a little surprised anyone was attached enough to the old one to bring it up, but I get it I guess. At this point, I've seen enough people reference it, that I'm inclined to just restore the old one. Might do that soon. >>92081 I.. suppose I could? Didn't really think about that, I wasn't aware that's actually who made it. Is there any record somewhere that shows squarewave made it? I'm not even sure when we found it, or where. >>92358 You're right it didn't need changing, and I'll admit that. Boredom got the best of me, and I changed it without thinking too much about how long people had been looking at it and associating it with the site. >>92653 Alright. I'll admit: by any standard definition, yes, I am an AIfag. I use it for basically everything. Image gen, Video Gen, Music Gen, Image Editing, Coding, TTS, you name it. Considering the sheer amount of AI making it into games at the moment, and the fact that most people seem to not be super happy with the quality/amount of fat-focused games, yes: I briefly showed some ANCIENT AI pixel art ideas (genned over two years ago) of game ideas/assets. Was that wrong? I guess so. I removed them since the prevailing sentiment seems to be "I'd rather play games made with terrible human art than AI slop", and dropped the subject entirely. >>92662 Sigh. Look. I hope you realize I'm not specifically catering to them. Do they visit those threads? Probably. Are the normal users of those threads identifying as pedos? No, I don't think so. Everyone likes what they like: if they get off to chibi-sized fictional fatties... look I'm not the morality police. Being a pedo is wrong, full stop. Liking tiny fat fictional short women that look young is... sigh. A weird gray borderline I've never felt super comfy addressing. The fact is, in modern times, there are tons of characters that people sexualize. Are some of these canon under-18? Yes. But this is nothing new. If someone wants to jack it to Kim Possible, they are gonna. What I should actually be doing to "police" that is... an open question I would say, with no actual good answer. >>92691 Guilty by association is a fallacy, though I get the sentiment. The fact is: this is a weird, niche, fetish-oriented pirate site. We have the ability to hide threads. If you don't like something you see: you should hide it. I know that's "sticking your head in the sand" if the whole loli thing really bothers you, but let me tell you, as admin here for ten years, there are much worse people on this site than the people frequenting the loli threads.

>>92693 >If someone wants to jack it to Kim Possible, they are gonna. Most of loli isn't Kim Possible or other teenagers (not that jacking it to teenagers is a good thing), most of loli is very prepubescent girls meant to look like they're in the single-digits of age. >there are much worse people on this site than the people frequenting the loli threads. And thank you very much for taking care of those shitheads, I hope other people have thanked you for this as well because it shouldn't go unappreciated... With that said, >What I should actually be doing to "police" that is... an open question I would say, with no actual good answer. With regards to the SUPER young stuff on loli threads, I know there's no actual good answer, but there have to be better answers than "nothing". Anyone sane knows those people don't use those threads to post short and young-looking, they use them to post art of kids and it feels wrong to see nothing of consequence done about it. Do I think the government should hunt and kill people that fap to art of children? My answer is that the government shouldn't have the power to hunt and kill anyone because I don't trust the government to use that responsibly. Do I think a niche bbw porn website could and should do more to crack down on sexual art of kids? Yeah. Idk how much more, but definitely more than what's being done now. I get the vibe that, as an admin, you don't want to put your moral stance on those loli boards out there, but you have to acknowledge that there's more that could be done to stop people getting their rocks off to kids here. I know there's already a lot being done towards that goal and I commend it wholeheartedly, but I do wonder what answers you've at least considered towards the whole loli issue.

>>92698 Holy shit, this place is not a moral high ground. This is a piracy board with the scum of the Internet jacking off with one hand and writing slurs & misogynistic "criticism" of models in the other. The entire point of the loli threads is to be containment. If they have a place to go, they won't be bringing it to other threads. We have admins and janitors taking care of requests to handle ACTUAL CP spam, which is by far the most egregious thing posted here. No one is making you look at the drawings. As much as you want this place to be better, remember where you are and why you came here. Anyone you explain this place to isn't going to see a difference but we see it and we have an understanding not to fuck with it. If you can't hang, fuck off.

>>92699 Eh I'd still say loli is worse than the rest of the site.

>>92701 Missing the point entirely, if we don't give them the containment threads they will post everywhere else. At least when it comes to the /draw/ boards. You don't have to like it but it comes with the territory.

>>92693 Hey, Barclay...I was wanting to ask... Are you famous here, and anywhere else? Like, you a niche micro-celeb?

>>92653 >>92698 >AI le bad! >muh heckin' thoughcrimerinos!! Thinkuh da fictional childrens!1eleven moralfags become an hero >>92693 >[I removed my AI stuff] Stop bending the knee to retarded "girlcock"-sucking tankies. Prevailing sentiments doesn't matter. Leftists are mostly broke losers who aren't financially contributing anyway. It's not fair to punish the non-retards on the board by removing your content that made the retards get their panties twisted in their dilaters. You know they're retarded, I know they're retarded, so your only other consideration should be the financial impact, if any. I wish we had more of a glimpse into your AI works, although I understand that your need for privacy limits what you can share. What models, epochs, et cetera do you use for what tasks? I'm sad to hear that even a Planck length has been conceded to these sniveling, performative faggots. That said, OP is right that the AI banner is worse than the old one.

>>92709 Why you sayin' the R word, Anon? Also, I thought rightists are bad ones! Like, antisemetism, racism, segregation, and a CERTAIN orange man who was in the files...

>>92710 Case in point, I present exhibit A. I couldn't have done better myself if I'd conducted a psyop.

>>92716 What are you talkin' about?

>>92698 >With regards to the SUPER young stuff on loli threads See that's the rub, isn't it? You can SAY someone looks super young, and they CAN look super young. But what if... they aren't? Like Nahida from genshin impact. She's presumably thousands of years old. She looks like a child, yes. But she isn't. And then the question becomes: why the fuck should anyone care about a fictional character's age? What if they ARE aged up from "young looking" to "pre-teen"? What then? Still wrong? >but you have to acknowledge that there's more that could be done to stop people getting their rocks off to kids here. Could I acknowledge that? I could... but it would be a lie. This site is a natural intersection for all kinds of perverted stuff, and loli sits right there. We all know their justifications (I've mentioned a few), and I'll be clear: for the threads we do allow, there have been, and always will be, restrictions on posting life-like, real, or depictions of real children. And, for the vast majority of them: the loli enjoyers are following the rules. They are getting off to fictional, if chibi-sized, fatties. You can say they are "too young" but they DO NOT EXIST. You, and the people that enjoy it, can "think" they are whatever age. It doesn't change the fact they don't actually have one. >>92699 >The entire point of the loli threads is to be containment. If they have a place to go, they won't be bringing it to other threads. This is the correct take. Manage any anonymous site long enough and you learn, this is legitimately the only way to manage something like this in a semi-reasonable way. Everything else spills over into thought police, or complete unmanaged chaos. >>92707 >Are you famous here, and anywhere else? >Like, you a niche micro-celeb? Not in the least. I adopted the LtBarclay name, but I am not Dwight Schultz. Or any other celeb. I am like the vast majority of people here. I like fat women. I found this site long, long ago. I loved it. When it died originally, I had been very active and had already talked to the mods that we had at the time, and took over the new site when it was clear the old one was on it's deathbed. I suppose, in a way, any chan admin who lasts a decade is a "celeb" as far as chan circles, but no: if you knew my actual name and searched around, you'd find literally nothing. I am nobody in the real world. >>92709 >Stop bending the knee to retarded "girlcock"-sucking tankies. Prevailing sentiments doesn't matter. I mean, somewhat fair, but, the thread I posted in was NOT deemed for AI games, (though it had some whiffs of it here and there), and I don't really blame anyone for legitimately hating AI. What's it's doing right now in the world in many ways, is awful. From bot farms, to terrible gross looking food menus, to lazy game "remasters", to the environment and energy prices, to consumer PC goods scarcity, to flooding youtube with slop, and probably many more things I'm not thinking about. There are reasonable and rational reasons to have a visceral reaction to AI. I am not blind to them. >I wish we had more of a glimpse into your AI works Eh. I was very, very active in BBWAI for quite some time at first. Nowadays, I mostly do it for myself. https://gofile.io/d/tBwOtwF0 was a stupid little isekai pilot I made a week or so back. I had the idea in my head forever, and was very happy with the result. It was going to explore lots of fetishes and stuff, but I don't know if I'm ever going to expand on it. It was just an idea rattling around in my head that thanks to AI, I could finally put on screen. The beats/gags in it don't have actual episodes they came from, they were all spur of the moment thoughts of little slices of what episodes COULD be. Like a bumper/hype trailer. >That said, OP is right that the AI banner is worse than the old one. Lol. I think I have enough evidence to put the old one back.

>>92723 If you want a good laugh, go check out >>92707 post history

>>92710 >Why you sayin' the R word, Anon? A man who is negatively impacted by words, is one who'd be eaten by a sabertooth tiger. Words only have power if you grant them that power. Free yourself from the burden of offense or needless suffering will continue.

>>92729 Since you're Canadian, I wanted to ask; are you Inuit, Quebecois, or just White? (Also, how are French Canadians more French than Cajun people in Louisiana?) And yes, Cajun people are French-speakers!

>>92731 Then explain why the hard R is considered the worst word ever.

>>92733 The people of this Earth are retarded.

>>92734 You mean disabled or dumb? Also, opinions on the idea of "re*arded" being considered a "slur" for disabled people?

>>92735 You are retarded.

>>92736 You saying I'm dumb or neurodivergent/disabled?

>>92736 Stop rattling the tard cage, no one comes here genuinely getting offended over how we refer to the dregs of society.

bring back the old icon please if icon is ai slop

Seriously what is it with zoomers and pedophile hysteria? Drawings don't even have ages

>>92792 I'm pretty sure millennials might get pissy too! (But still, who even is the girl in the logo, and who made her, and how y'all know her new form is AI slop)?

>>92723 I think my position on loli is getting confused with the position of someone moralfagging about it. I don't care about the drawings on the internet as if they're real people, nor do I see the drawings and feel sadness that "the world is in such a sad state when these drawings can exist". I don't want to see art of sexualized children because it's gross, no other reason. I think it's somewhat disingenuous to bring up non-sexualized lolis like Nahida, who aren't sexualized one iota in their source material or official art, because no official art of her (afaik) is made for sexual fanservice purposes. I know that a fake person who's 5 and a fake person who's 5000 are equally fake and unimportant, and I don't care what that number is. If she looks 5 and has a giant rack and pussy out I'm going to be grossed out. I also think it's disingenuous to say that >This site is a natural intersection for all kinds of perverted stuff, and loli sits right there This website isn't called "all kinds of perverted stuffchan" it's called "bbwchan". I know ssbbws and bhms aren't bbws exactly, but they're a hell of a lot closer than sexualized art of kids. With all that being said though >The entire point of the loli threads is to be containment. If they have a place to go, they won't be bringing it to other threads. Yeah I forgot this fucked up law of the internet when I wrote that first post. there's always gonna be lolifags. I hate to say it but remembering that takes them from being "gross" to "gross but it's healthy for the site".

>>92794 Based! >Also, I find it odd that undeveloped breasts are allowed to be drawn with younger characters, even for non sexual purposes! Like...ewww! Also, is there a way to draw uncensored breasts on a woman without it being called porn or something icky?

>>92723 Btw, Mr. Barclay, did you INVENT this site? If so, why and what for? Not only that, but opinions on people saying certain words, (like "re*ard", and even the hard r)? Also, who is the BBWchan mascot/logo anyway? Where did she come from, and was she stolen off 2chan)? And if you hate the loli stuff so much, why don't you report them? (Also, is it all for people to play with themselves or a a way to document them like how people might talk about Hitler at a museum)? (BTW, it'll be so nice if you respond to my questions)! 😊 >BTW, sorry if the loli question was gross

>>92795 >is there a way to draw uncensored breasts on a woman without it being called porn or something icky? There is, it's just called art. I wish there was a way to make that sentence sound less pretentious, but really it's just a matter of whether a piece of art is made to cause arousal in a viewer.

>>92793 I have only noticed this trend in the last few years. Though you could be right seeing as more gen Z watch anime than any professional sport

>>92797 Ok...but what about cartoon/anime art? Like, I remember seeing a background painting in a scene of the Mr. Bean cartoon of an abstract busty lady with her nippies out... (and I was a kids cartoon, Anon, A KIDS' CARTOON)!

>>92794 >I think my position on loli is getting confused with the position of someone moralfagging about it. I don't care about the drawings on the internet as if they're real people, nor do I see the drawings and feel sadness that "the world is in such a sad state when these drawings can exist". I don't want to see art of sexualized children because it's gross Fair. I also think it's gross. As a mod here, I'd love to hide the theads that contain the stuff you're referring to, but I have to monitor them to make sure they are staying inside the lines. Do I WANT to maintain this boundary as a sentinel? NO. Should YOU? No. There is a hide thread button. That's the only reasonable answer I can give you as as administrator. >I think it's somewhat disingenuous to bring up non-sexualized lolis like Nahida, who aren't sexualized one iota in their source material or official art I don't think it's disingenuous: people will sexualize a fucking lamp. It doesn't matter how something IS, it's how someone WANTS it to be in media. In what you are referring to: these people love the contrast between the tiny, child-like bodies and the massive, mature body parts. Does that ride eerily on the line? Sometimes, yes. Which is why we have -some- guardrails against the truly grotesque, but at the end of the day: hiding the containment is all any regular person can hope for, without imposing martial law or unbridled 'it's everywhere' style plague. >This website isn't called "all kinds of perverted stuffchan" it's called "bbwchan". It used to be. Times have changed. If you've been around long enough: there used to be a specific trans board. At one point, I removed bhm and then brought it back. There's a text only board. Yes, in 2008, in was just 'bbw'. In 2026, it's mostly that, and a bit more for people with more... diverse tastes. Like loli. Again, it's tolerated to an extent, not celebrated as the defining feature. >Yeah I forgot this fucked up law of the internet when I wrote that first post. there's always gonna be lolifags. I hate to say it but remembering that takes them from being "gross" to "gross but it's healthy for the site". Healthy for the site as it currently stands as an anonymous image board, yes. Healthy for the average user's mindset, probably not, but it is a strategy. >>92796 I did not invent this site. It's been around in some form since 2006 I believe. I just saved it from the dustbin of history as one of the last vestiges of no-account anonymous discussion/sharing. I don't know how the mascot is. It's been used in one form or another since... the beginning, I think. As for the rest.. lol. Buddy you need to take a break. I'm quite sure you're the safe spaces/slur guy, and you need to stop thinking about what places should be, and more about what this place IS. The mods are already forming an opinion about you. You're either way too young to be here, or... well I won't infer mental state but it's coming clearer, looking at your post history. I can't quite tell if you are larping or not, but it's getting a bit tiresome.

>>92803 Ok, then how would I change for the better? (Just in case if I was the slur guy)

>>92803 >There is a hide thread button. Doesn't work in incognito mode, but whatever I've lived with it until now I can live with it from now on. Thanks again to the rest of the mods for yall's service. >The mods are already forming an opinion about you. When I get in the mood to post here I post pretty frequently, I wonder if the mods already have an opinion on me? I hope I'm sane enough for that opinion to be nothing too memorable.

>>92804 GTFO

>>92807 I thought you allow anybody here

>>92808 You're responding to a different person, Barclay signs all of his posts afaik

>>92809 Hm...ok. Also, how did Barclay went from being Sweden to now being Dutch?

>>92809 He uses a tripcode.

>>92811 How the f*ck does that work?

>>92804 Take a break, exactly as I said. If you are truly concerned this much about random ass text on a backwater image board, you have point of view issue. This space isn't for anyone in particular, which means: we don't police slurs/insults, and beyond that people's opinions of what actually constitutes that is blurred. I grew up in a time where 'retarded' was specifically for a regular person saying/doing something stupid, NOT 'disabled'. I've never used it as a slur, but even if I did: that's on the "receiver" for taking it that way. Beyond that: it doesn't fucking matter. No one comes here expecting a 'safe space' where they don't have to be triggered. Hell, people come here specifically TO trigger people like you, because it's apparently so easy with basic words like 'retarded'. >>92810 It's called VPN. You shouldn't expect anyone's country flag in gen to be accurate truth, it's just an approximation. >>92812 If you have to ask, you don't need to know. It just ensures no matter what IP I post from, you can tell it's still me, because the tripcode 's converted 'vOgLqq' cannot be re-derived from what I actually typed in the name field based on the site's initial salt. I have used that tripcode since the beginning of the site and it is unique to me, no matter where I post from. Thus, if anyone wants to make sure a message is actually from me, the site admin, they need only check the tripcode. It is the same across many, many years, meaning the same person has been using the same tripcode in the their name the entire time.

>>92815 Why dont you censor the slurs or insults? Also, why don't you advocate this place being a safe-space? And one more thing, why don't you advocate against people being called insults here or the bullies? (And when you say this site ISN'T for anyone in particular, then who is it and who is it NOT for)? >Sorry if im being "annoying", im just asking.

>>92816 If you are sincerely asking questions like this on a fucking porn piracy board you're either actually retarded or too young to be posting here and should probably be banned imo

>>92816 Bro mon this is a space to share and to a degree discuss pornography. If it bothers you then maybe you should just go buy it and not visit with a website built by and for degeneracy. At this point you're just trolling as far as I can tell

>>92818 Then why the slurs and stuff?!? And why y'all ok with degeneration, isn't that bad? Is there a way to make fetish stuff without it being porn, And if this is a porn site, then why don't yall change it for the better?!?

>>92816 Censorship is a bit antithetical to the site's ethos. Which is why I'm, for the moment, allowing you to go on your little spergout. I still can't tell if you're new, on the spectrum, and trying to feel out a new social space, or you are just trolling around, but I'll know pretty soon it feels like.

>>92820 What if I AM on the spectrum?

>>92822 Nothing wrong with it, but clearly you don't understand social cues, and are used to being coddled, which you won't get here. It's time to stop larping, or start taking a good hard look at how you're acting, before the mods act for you.

>>92829 What's so bad about being coddled? Also, how bad am I acting?

>>92709 >>92716 When I'm in an Unemployed battle and my opponent is SAGE

In a win for the previous art enjoyers, the old logo and favicon have been restored, with a loss for nobody. You might have to hard-refresh to see them back on the homepage and titlebar. I'll consider discussions here closed, as that removes any last public-facing vestiges of AI after the re-vamp. Rest assured, the site would not be standing to this day after my dad's stroke if I hadn't been able to let it shoulder the burden of getting us back on track, but, there's no reason anyone needs to see the effects of that, so back to classic it is.